Impeachment exists, if only there were a functioning body of government left to do such a thing.
I will believe Impeachment means something once someone is removed from power until then it's a political threat that means nothing.
At this point it's an untested power.
Arguably, it has been tested, several times. Each time it failed, after a fashion. We should be concerned what message that sends to the next person who would contemplate engaging in such impeachment-actionable behaviors.
The third political party in the US should be The Woodchipper. You don't vote for candidates, just The Woodchipper. If The Woodchipper gets the majority of votes, all the candidates on the ticket get tossed in a fucking woodchipper and we start the election over with new candidates.
This fixes our problems, in a uniquely American way.
Televise this, just as Carlin intended.
Who gets to throw them in?
Woodchucks
They're still bitter about Groundhog Day. I say, let them have it.
A lottery is the only fair system
This is, indeed, a more realistic solution for America than, let's say, let the president have less power. Or getting rid of the electoral college.
Why stop there? Have every President, Senator, and Member of Congress investigated at all times. Whether we think they’re corrupt or not.
I can actually see how that would be a problem.
It's innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until investigated.
But yes, it would be politicized immediately. If only there was a way to have bad faith actors run a government smoothly, then we'd be cooking with gas.
Getting the money out of elections would go a long way. The problem is that more than half the ones who need to choose to get the money out benefit from it.
Maybe a stupid question, but shouldn't the FBI be doing that?
They should, but don't, and haven't ever. At this point I don't really trust them to.
Especially given their pinkerton start.
The same FBI that was dismissed by Trump when they looked into him, even though he was totally guilty? Or the same FBI that told civil rights protestors to kill themselves?
The FBI is the Federal police for crimes the common man commits, not the rich.
If we applied the standards of Nuremberg, every president would hang.
Personally I think Jimmy Carter can be rehabilitated.
I remember hoping that Obama would prosecute Bush for all of his crimes, in hindsight it was really naive.
We JuSt NeEd To MoVe On AnD hEal As A nAtIoN!
.... /Vomit
Bush was mostly lawful evil. Trump is just a Captain Planet villain.
Is lying about "weapons of mass destruction" in order to convince the country to invade another so the dickbag trio could get more wealthy legal? Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush agree I guess.
Free speech and all would make lying legal, so I guess you're right... Lawful evil it is then :/
Trump is just a Captain Planet villain cosplayer.
FTFY.
Trump is simply not competent enough and never has been.
Joker maybe
Right? I hate that phrase as it's used here. How are we supposed to move on when national traumas are left unresolved?
I don't want Trump to win because he's more likely to create a "presidential crimes commission" full of political appointees going after the other party.
We have the legal system, if there are crimes they should be charged. The answer is not some additional political tribunal.
Ha ha ha ha your legal system is the laughing stock of the planet
glances at Europe
We have the legal system
I mean...do we?
Judge shopping and legislation via court ruling have called into question the fairness and legitimacy of a once ironclad judicial system. It's being gamed right now by the wealthy and powerful to get what they want.
Then the answer is fixing those issues. Saying the system isn't working so we need to ignore it and build out a new system purpose built to prosecute my political opponents is like definitional fascism. We don't need a strong man to fix everything extrajudicially, we just need the law applied fairly.
If we can't even get Trump to stop running despite being a convicted felon, I don't even know if we can catch up with the next fucker. Dude could literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and the government would go "Well, they're the president, what are you going to do about it?"
Didn't he directly say he could shoot someone and still win the (2016) election? I swear I remember seeing that he flat out said that, I think around the time of the Republican primary debates
Yes, that's where the original quote comes from.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
Having convicted felon be able to run for office is a good thing. I don't want a Navalny situation in my country.
An insurrectionist, though? Fuck that noise. Trump should be hanged. He tried to violently overthrow the government.
If they don't remove presidential immunity during the next president's term in office we'll be sitting on a time bomb of WHEN, not IF, a president uses that immunity to destroy our democracy.
I mean, I know we're probably all well aware that this is exactly why the immunity ruling was made and it makes it all the more dire that it be rectified and codified in unambiguously worded law as soon as possible.
Creating a Department dedicated entirely to Justice.
Good meme
Jailing a president is tough. We need to jail their enablers. No president acts alone
Haha yeah the government that’s currently enabling war crimes is gonna totally make a commission to hold presidents liable for crimes.
This is why nothing changes. If you start looking at one of them you have to look at all of them.
organize and take to the streets (and their pockets) if you want that to actually happen.
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