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I do not really know much of the world outside america's dictating media outlets that only serves to induce manufactured fearmongering and hatred for controling it's citizens thoughts and emotions like the tyrannical oligarch it is. America is practically a monarch that pretends to be either democratic or republic. China can't be worse than america right?

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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago

What an interesting way to formulate your question. It’s literally flame baiting.

[-] vzq@lemmy.world 4 points 39 minutes ago

It’s literally flame baiting, but flame baiting is only figuratively flame baiting.

I’ll go get me coat.

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 5 points 1 hour ago

I have family in China, I have family in the US, and I live in neither. Your average person just goes about their lives no matter where. You can be a political activist and go about your business in the US but you can't in China (and some other countries I've spent a few years in). Where I'm at, I can get spinal laser surgery and pay absolutely nothing out of pocket and well, US healthcare is memed the world over. Different countries, different worries.

Governments and politics is one thing, but getting by as average people, I feel we all just do our best no matter where we are.

[-] BonerMan@ani.social 14 points 2 hours ago

Nope. China is worse. Dictatorship, Concentration camps, 1984 was used as a blueprint for the state and society, their buildings are made from the last scrap you can find and regularly collapse, the air quality is so unhealthy in most urban areas that it damages you just like chain smoking, their environment is poisoned and full of waste, they don't have a justice system but show courts for many things.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 1 hour ago

Define "worse". What's your concern? Level of democracy? Workplace safety? Living standards? Preserving nature and caring for the enviromnent? Mass surveillance? Economy or wealth? Independence of media? I guess these are all different questions. Generally we don't atrribute a general single bad-ness scale to a country. I suppose both countries don't excel at any of these metrics. But they're not at comparable levels, either.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I'd say not quite as bad, but it's still pretty bad. Especially if you like freedom, you won't have much fun there.

On the other side if you like political games, bootlicking and bribary you will have a very good time, not as a foreigner, but if you're Han Chinese and from a family which is already established in the party it's quite nice.

[-] ExtremeDullard 1 points 2 hours ago

It's no worse than America as China makes it out to be.

Both are awful in their own ways.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

What a way to put on the appearance of an enlightened neutral observer while completely ignoring the complex socio-political situation by reducing it to a simple, sweeping statement. Couldn't have done it better if I tried.

I'm going to guess you've never lived in a totalitarian state. Travel to China and express your discontent with the ruling party. See what happens.

[-] ExtremeDullard 3 points 1 hour ago

I’m going to guess you’ve never lived in a totalitarian state

You and I might in a couple of weeks.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

Not me. Thankfully I live an ocean away from that hellhole.

[-] ExtremeDullard 0 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

Travel to China and express your discontent with the ruling party. See what happens.

Travel to the US and express your admiration for Osama Bin Laden. See what happens.

Hint: you get sent to a US base in Cuba and held in detention there for decades without trial.

[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

China is worse, but you are right, both are bad.

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