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[–] Xandolas@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (15 children)

The loss of the forum like help threads will probably be the most impactful thing. We can build communities elsewhere, but the 8 years old post about a problem only you and the OP is having is super valuable.

[–] uthredii@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

There was talk of someone populating a Lemmy instance with reddit data.

There is a lot of reddit data on a torrent somewhere aparrently.

[–] nhgeek@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I feel that. I posted about a Plex problem 2 years ago and the subsequent solution I worked out. Every once in a while I still get someone replying to that and thanking me.

[–] jimmyjoners@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

My hope is that things like Chat GPT can now become that source. I can only assume all those historical posts were used as training data.

[–] gdbjr@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I made sure to delete all my Reddit data before deleting my account. Not getting anything from me.

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[–] milkytoast@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

yep. this is why i might still occasionally use reddit after this. r/askmechanics was so incredibly useful

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[–] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suppose many there are also affected by the Apollo debacle too. It just makes that pill even more bitter.

[–] djidane535@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think so. With the end of Apollo, I have no other way to access Reddit except their mobile website or their app. I have the feeling it’s too late now, Apollo is unlikely to come back, regardless of what Reddit does. Now, I just hope kbin / lemmy will grow enough to become a good alternative (still learning how everything works ^^).

[–] GioryJalino@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes, Kbin/lemmy needs enough good and original content to flourish. What I currently miss is the niche subreddits on lemmy. For specific brands or particular products or hobbies it's easy to find a community on reddit, but there are only a few already available on lemmy.

[–] djidane535@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You are absolutely right. Reddit was so big that it was possible find a community for everything. I don't expect kbin/lemmy to get there anytime soon unfortunately.

[–] nhgeek@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I agree, this is a big value of reddit. It's only solved with mass migration, about which I am skeptical. We also need more niche communities as folks arrive.

[–] ShutYourPieHole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Even if a community exists for the content you seek, how do you determine the one that is going to grow? There could be a different version of that community on every server, which is the area I'm struggling to find content. Join every alternative is an option.

Unless there is something I'm missing. Quite possible as the federated approach is all new to me.

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[–] jteb22@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is stopping you from creating lems for things that you're passionate about? We have an opportunity here to create a true alternative to reddit, and the more cozy we make it for r/efugees, the better the transition can eventually go!

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

The great subreddits are full of „self“ posts, not links. How could one recreate that in an authentic way?

[–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Even if they reversed the API changes, sacked Spez, reinstated i.reddit.com, ate an entire bucket of humble pie, and personally paid me £100 I'd still prefer the vibe here to be honest. It's way less angry and more authentic here.

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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I hope that this protest does something

[–] myk@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It will. It will make the mods and the power-users realise that Reddit don’t care and won’t change course. Then it’s up to them.

[–] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

I completely agree. Reddit has shown no indication of backing down. They will just wait for it to finish if the lockdown is as short as ~48 hours. If a major/big sub goes on lockdown indefinitely, they'll open it and replace the mods. I'm pretty sure there are tons of people out there willing to mod a big subreddit like r/videos for one reason or another. The reddit of the digg migration era is gone. It's just corporate reddit now.

[–] Chog@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't give it much time until they start replacing the mods if the blackout drags on for long.

[–] Jitterydork@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, I agree. It would be logical to assume they're confidentially seeking out new prospective moderators behind the scenes at this moment ready to take over.

[–] non_anomalous_penis@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It will be like having anti popes. if I were have to gone on a long vacation - like 5 or 6 weeks, I am guessing when I returned I might not even notice anything different for a while if I didnt use an app to access. I'm sure they will ban anyone who mentions the great schism.

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[–] tomdenhagen@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sceptical. If most subs only protest for 2 days, then all Reddit has to do is weather the storm and then continue on. The only way I see it having any further impact is if many large subs black out indefinitely.

Reddit would either be forced to make concessions or escalate even further by removing the mods of the protesting subs and forcing it open again. That would be a further sign of bad faith and really piss off all these mods that spent up to a decade doing moderation for free.

[–] Kris@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

You make it sound like Reddit does not have the option to turn the subreddit on and replace the mods. However, the users who actually really do care about reddit will leave and will have to take their content with them.

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[–] unfazedbeaver@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

Good. Only way users and communities can be heard is to actively shutdown until further notice

[–] BlackCoffee@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't be suprised if more subreddits will follow and start early.

It also has more impact to do it out of the blue.

[–] johnthedoe@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I hope there's enough information there for refugees to arrive here safely

[–] minode@szmer.info 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There have been some privacy concerns regarding Lenny's implementation (deleted posts and whatnot). Which has kept some users second-guessing the change. I have tried aether before coming here, but sadly, there are not enough people there.

I just hope that the community from Reddit doesn't spread itself out too much :(

[–] Helix@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I just hope that the community from Reddit doesn’t spread itself out too much :(

Why? Decentralisation is a good thing.

[–] minode@szmer.info 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's important for resiliency, but I'm afraid that many communities will loose a lot of value when they don't agree on a place to go

[–] Helix@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

what's the value about? Maybe they can form multiple communities? Not everything has to be connected. It's also OK to be disconnected or spread out as a community from time to time.

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[–] NotSteve_@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I own a subreddit that I'll admit that it isn't the largest but I'm going to be putting a link to the new corresponding Kbin magazine in the private message. I'm hoping other subreddits will as well

[–] cavemeat@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

You're doing the lord's work

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[–] DarkErmac@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I would too, given what’s happened recently.

[–] noodlejetski@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

the only thing that's worrying me about the subreddits closing indefinitely (even though I wholeheartedly support it), is that people are going to use even more closed off, unsearchable platforms as alternatives. /r/unixporn mods say their only "official" alternative is currently their Discord "server".

edit: the message on /r/iPhone also directs people to their Discord. sigh.

[–] nfld0001@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not that I think it would happen, but I wonder if Discord could theoretically make publicly discoverable servers directly visible and indexable online?

Discord already has and maintains a web accessed variant of the platform. It’d require some UI for users not logged in and users not registered with a particular publicly visible server, but I’d wager it’s possible. Probably a nightmare to revamp the back-end to make it possible, but possible. It’d kinda feel like how Twitter is indexed and publicly searchable, but platform registration is required to participate, with Discord having the extra layer of server membership on top of a platform account.

It’d probably do nothing about servers that fall in a sort of visibility limbo, though, like servers that are significantly populated but invisible to Discord’s server discovery. Still, I like to daydream that kind of thing would put a dent on the platform’s information visibility issues 🤔.

I've seen that a lot of mods are holding power. They want users to migrate to discord because they are mods over there too. Each time I've posted one of my communities here I get shadow banned or posts removed. Gets really annoying

[–] heartburn@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I second this. For a while, adding "reddit" to every google search gives generally better results. Now all this information will become hidden in unsearchable places.

[–] BlackCoffee@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Which is a good case against the centralization of information.

I have been way to comfortable just using Reddit as my source of information with the usage of 3rd party applications.

What if Reddit puts the subreddits behind a paywall?

What if Reddit is gonna demand that every subreddit generates an x percentage revenue just to exist?

What Reddit has shown with their actions is that they are gonna put monetization of their userbase first and user experience somewhere in 10th.

The possibilities to screw the users in regards of the information they consume is...worrying.

It will end up the same as 9gag did. Some weird facebook/instagram/tik tok clone used for people who have an attention span of 60 seconds.

[–] zekiz@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no it's not, because now you just can't really find this kind of information unless you know which discord server you have to join. STOP USING DISCORD AS A WIKI

[–] luna@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Stop using Discord.

[–] Jarmer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Also what happens when a ton of users delete their content, as I just did yesterday. I participated in quite a bit of tech support chat on reddit, and now all of that is gone.

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (11 children)

!iphone@lemmy.ml is one offspring

[–] millionsofplayers@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is there a way to browse the newest subs in the instance?

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

There are two excellent lists I’ve seen. One is a community/sub browser made by someone on feddit.de, the other is a comprehensive list of reddit subs that have been duplicated in the Fediverse. (That one is surprisingly huge!). I didn’t make note of either of those, but surely someone will be along shortly with the links.

[–] jimmyjoners@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sucks that the UI doesn't auto-link that for you.

[–] C4Phoenix@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that Is currently an issue on the radar. Lets hope it gets picked up quickly

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[–] mobiuscoffee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but we can help out in the meantime!

iphone@lemmy.ml

And if you need the full url for your instance's search: https://lemmy.ml/c/iphone

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[–] meatysoup@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Good. I’m done with reddit forever.

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