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submitted 3 weeks ago by Luffy879@lemmy.ml to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.ml

Linux just gained another .13% usage, while Windows lost .23. Another win for Linux

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[-] undrivendev@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

0.13%? This is definitely the year of linux desktop.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

Let's. Freakin. GOOOOOO!!!

[-] fhein@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

An increase of 172000 monthly active Linux users (based on this)

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 43 points 3 weeks ago

It's interesting that windows 10 lost more than windows 11 gained, .09% of users jumped ship because they didn't want windows 11

[-] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

I don't thing any of these changes are statistically enough to make these kind of assumptions

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah seriously, any change less than ~2% is within margin of error.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

No, there are probably loads of other factors at play

Funny though

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

I use Arch, btw.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

"Steam Decks"

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

I use deck, btw

[-] n3cr0@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Chill! That's only 2% in total. We can feel happy for Valve doing the pioneer work and maintaining software for Linux.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Percentages can hide the impact of tendencies. Steam has 132MM monthly active users, assuming the poll is a representative sample. Then, 2% is a bit over 2.6MM people using a linux device. This doesn't include steamOS. That's at least equivalent to an entire small country's population using Linux.

[-] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

But it does include SteamOS

[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, where u get those numbers from?? I thought they stopped disclosing these a few yrs back. Personally I would've guessed its closer to 150m myself but I'd like to see any reports or more informed speculation if possible.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago
[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Tbh for some reason I always assumed there were more Linux gamers than Mac gamers lol

[-] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

NGL, a few more rounds of sweet Asahi releases Linux might be better for gaming on the M1 series over MacOS. The devs actually have a Vulcan support built. Apple never bothered, lol.

[-] n3cr0@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Linux has always enjoyed better game support than MacOS. Even before Valve's efforts, it was possible to get most games running - sometimes fine, but often with bugs or defunct features. Some games ran even better with wine than on a modern Windows installation of its time.

However, this does not mean it was easy.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That old joke from like 2003 still rings true:

"You know which games are good on Mac because they already came out 10-15 years ago." 😂

[-] mehdi_benadel@lemmy.balamb.fr 20 points 3 weeks ago

That's me, that's all me

[-] mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks, didnt know there was a link. ill be adding that as url.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

come on where's my survey I want to get surveyed

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

The survey is just accepting to send some auto collected data. There is no "real survey" involved.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

come on where's my accepting to send some auto-collected data, I want to accept to send some auto-collected data

I think it's random - Steam asked me to participate today when I opened it, but the last time that happened was a long time ago...

[-] helix@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

Rounding error.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Does Archlinux include SteamOS? Why isn't SteamOS not listed, but several versions of Ubuntu is listed separately? Wasn't SteamOS making up about half the Steam users using Linux? I would like to see multiple ways and options to enable and disable for Linux grouping, and longer lists. It may be enough for MacOS or Windows, but not for Linux.

[-] padge@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago

Arch Linux includes SteamOS

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Where is this stated?? If that was the case, the difference to other distros would be much higher. SteamOS is usually listed separately as HoloISO: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=linux

[-] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

Since it separates Manjaro I'd assume it also does it for other Arch based distros with their own branding like Endeavour or Artix?

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

I know it used to, but it must have changed since I remember. Didn't see Holo when I looked at the survey this morning either, I guess that's what I get for commenting before I have coffee

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

It only shows up when you use the dropdown menu to filter for Linux only. Then you also will see Freedesktop SDK (Flatpak). For whatever reason Flatpak and SteamOS Holo are ignored if you look at all operating systems instead Linux only. If you compare the numbers, they are not added to Archlinux or anything else.

[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] TrumpetX@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ubuntu 24.04LTS reporting in!

[-] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

If you run Steam under Wine or variant under Linux which I assume many do, does that count as Windows or Linux?

[-] four@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think I've seen anyone run Steam through Wine. What would be the reasons for that?

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

It used to be common and useful. I did this even after Valve shipped a native Linux TF2 as at the beginning the Wine method gave better results on my hardware. But that time has long passed as Valve has integrated Wine (Proton) and in almost all cases the Linux native builds will outperform Wine (and Steam will let you use the Windows version via Proton if you want even if there is a native Linux build).

So while I suspect that there are still a few people doing this out of momentum, habit or reading old tutorials I am not aware of any good reasons to do this anymore.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

But why would you run steam under wine? The games themselves make sense, but steam not so much.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago
  1. Launching Steam games outside of Steam can be very difficult. Some games outright won't allow it.
  2. Steam provides native libraries such as the overlay, networking and matchmaking tools, achievements... You need to have Windows versions of these which wouldn't be distributed by default in the Linux version of Steam.
  3. In the past Steam just didn't run under Linux, so you had no other option.
[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

There used to be a time when Steam for Linux didn't exist.

[-] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, does it allow you on Linux to download all games with the native client? On the Mac that doesn’t work, so then I run it through Wine.

[-] four@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

On Linux you can run native version of Steam, which then uses Wine (actually Proton, which is based on Wine) for running games. So Steam is not wrapped within Wine, but the games are (if needed/enabled)

[-] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

Steam on Linux has it's own version of wine(proton) built in.

So you can launch Windows games through the Linux native Steam client.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

does it allow you on Linux to download all games with the native client?

yes, and then you run them using Proton, Valve's tool based on Wine, specially made for doing exactly that.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

There is an option in settings to allow trying all games. By default it only allows it for tested and verified games. But it is a simple checkbox then you can download and run any Windows game.

[-] Sickday@kbin.earth 1 points 3 weeks ago

I haven't used it in a while, but last time I tried Lutris there were many games that relied on the Steam on Wine runner.

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