What hot mess did I miss last night?

But uuuuuuh to add my two cents, first: based.

Second, and I'm going to generalize here, you cis straight fellas know the typical woman puts a lot of effort into day to day life, right? For you hornbags that care about appearances the most, I'm talking about shit like the ability to find clothes that fit you properly, put together an attractive outfit, put on makeup that goes with said outfit, a haircut that suits your face, and then we still gotta work full-time to make a living while keeping all that up and paying for it. Now, I know plenty of women skip some of those steps from personal experience, but we're talking misogynists and incels here, right? We know that's the kind of woman you've.... "settled" for, since you can't afford a house servant and prostitutes "don't count". My point is that shit can take years, even decades, to learn. WE ARE NOT BORN WITH THESE SKILLS. JUST LIKE YOU, WE TYPICALLY ARE NOT BORN HOT, so stop blaming your weak jawline or whatever the fuck incels have picked this week to bully themselves over. Maybe you got bullied for it in high school, but as adults, most people don't even a shit about that unless you keep drawing attention to it.

When we do learn how to keep up appearances, the default way is catered towards the male gaze. Have you fucks even considered what appealing to the female gaze looks like? Are you piss babies putting effort into yourselves like we do? If so, how long have you been trying? Because if it's only months, that's not long enough. At least not long enough for someone that cares about appearances just as much as you do. If you're going to hold your potential partner to high standards, you need to match those standards. Are you even remotely trying to appeal to the female gaze? Look in the mirror. If you were a woman, would you want to fuck your male reflection, much less want to be in a long term relationship with yourself? Are you even showering yourself and keeping up basic human maintenance every day? "Oh, but I don't want to date someone vain enough to care about that, I want her to see me for what's inside~" YOUR INSIDES ARE ROTTEN AND MALNOURISHED INCEL, WHAT LITTLE IS THERE IS EMOTIONALLY STARVED AND DYING. Do you even have a personality outside hating yourself and the people around you? You need to help yourself rather than expect a woman to treat you like an abandoned kitten in a cardboard box. If you treat her like a transaction, either physically or emotionally, she will do the same to you, and you will be left just as empty as when you were single.

And I haven't even gotten to the fact that some of you misogynist fucks want us to be your therapist, your mommy, your experienced bimbo, and your naive virgin all rolled into one person. Oh, and we still have to work a full-time job, of course, but your cock will get soft if we make a dime more than you. If there are any incels that have read this far, I'm going to reward you with a little secret, c'mere. When you're dating around, you typically aren't competing with some imaginary chad or even just a normal guy. For me personally, you're competing with the idea of me staying single. When I'm dating, I ask myself: Is this nicer than staying single? Can you handle being single and having plenty of alone time? Because I fucking thrive in it. I love my current partner, but we always make sure that each week we also get at least a couple of hours of alone time outside work. Because I love myself enough to enjoy that time, and they do too. I can not imagine ever dating someone that can't even love themselves. That's a deep hole your partner is never going to be able to fill on their own, even if they wanted to. Do you understand? You need to stop rejecting yourself before you expect other people to stop rejecting you. Put more effort into yourself and take yourself out on little solo dates, even if it's somewhere free like the park. Become someone you would actually want to spend time with. I can tell you from personal experience that when I was terrible at maintaining my appearance a decade ago and generally loathed myself, I would pretty much only get first dates. And wow, surprise, most of those first dates probably wouldn't have even happened if I didn't photoshop my photo and round down on my weight. Guys rarely wanted to see me again, and looking back, I don't blame them. Believe it or not, women can struggle with dating too, and I haven't even taken sexual assault and stalking into account during this rant. If you don't think women can be huge fucking losers, you need to seriously re-evaluate your outlook on life.

The whole incel perspective on "its so easy for women" as if a culture based entirely around their sexual assault is easy

made a mental note of this thread when it was posted aaand here we are again

good riddance to bad garbage

Currently losing my mind waiting for the girl I posted about telling her my feelings but even if she tells me she doesn't want a relationship or anything that would be better than the agony of not knowing. These motherfuckers on the other hand can't even get the courage up to do that probably.

death to misogyny

Damn, I hate this topic. It's so painfully personal. Even though I've (mostly) struggled through it, it always haunts what I have to say about feminism and masculinity.

Incel culture is the synthesis of toxic masculinity and capitalist alienation because it combines harmful gender norms with the sense of estrangement and disempowerment produced by capitalist systems.

Toxic masculinity promotes rigid expectations for men to be dominant, emotionally stoic, and sexually successful. Incel culture distorts these expectations into a sense of entitlement to sex (and romantic relationships—which is also fucked up!), leading to resentment and anger when that doesn't happen by magic.

Toxic masculinity and capitalist alienation feed into each other. It's fucked up. It leads to a worldview where men feel disconnected from both society and themselves, leading to frustration, misogyny, and frequently violence.

I despise that way of thinking. I try to encourage the lads in my sphere of influence to fight back against those pressures, but it's... difficult. I lead by example, and that's the best I can do. I don't know if I'm doing well, but I'm trying my best.

Incel shit truly is misogyny brought to its extremes. They hate women so bad that they blame them for their own internal experiences of loneliness and isolation. They push all their negative feelings onto women as a scapegoat. They truly believe that the world is their patriarchal birth right and that that includes women as an object owed to them. It’s fucking disgusting and dangerous, these people need reeducation and mental healthcare, I see no other way to resolve it