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[-] Raylon@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For context, it was clear from the outset that the right wing-free market gov would reject this. The proposed tax was submitted by the Juso (young socialist party) and it's pretty clear that it will lose a national vote as well by a large margin (as the Swiss voting population is worse free market brained than even the US).

Now why would I consider this still a good move by the Juso? Because it brings up debate. About inheritance tax, but also about the injust society in general and how rich people don't contribute their part. And in the long term, it moved the overton window to strech further to the left.

I'm Swiss and open to answer questions if you have any.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 14 hours ago

I’m Swiss and open to answer questions if you have any.

Has the country ever done anything to stop being "that country where rich assholes and all sorts of corrupt people have a secret bank account"?

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 11 hours ago

To me inheritance is the fairest thing to tax. Everything should go to the state at death.

[-] ouch@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

That would destroy a lot of family business like farms.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

How do you feel about Switzerland's semi direct democracy governance?

What do you like and what do you think needs to be improved.


How are your gun laws structured? Could you briefly describe the purchasing process? Do private citizens have to store their firearms in a centralized location or can they keep them secured at home?


Sorry this is off topic, and might be to much to ask. Feel free to answer what you're comfortable with or ignore me. Appreciate you answering questions people have none the less.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I’m Swiss and open to answer questions if you have any.

As a nearby neutral power: Is the peak of Mont Blanc French, Italian, or both?

It belongs to the Ibex

source: am Swiss and also did a partial climb of the mont Blanc in my youth

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 21 hours ago

Surprisingly, it's Bulgarian.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

And that place we think of as Bulgaria is actually a combination of territories belonging to Azerbaijan and Lesotho.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

And Lesotho is of course just the original indigenous name for Peru

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

You know who you never hear about? Uruguay.

Seems suspicious. What are they up to?

[-] dufkm@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Probably preparing for the World Cup in secrecy, which is why we only see them once every 4 years.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 22 hours ago

Why are Swiss so "free market brained"?

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 19 points 22 hours ago

Because it made us wealthy? And because Switzerland has strong social security and failing in that free market is unpleasent but you will not go bankrupt or become homless.

That is ignoring the environmental destruction and what it does to other countries but for us the free market together with social policies worked wonders and people are keen to keep that alive.

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net -4 points 22 hours ago

but you will not go bankrupt or become homless.

Are you sure about that?

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 21 hours ago

Yes quite sure, if you are homeless you are so by choice. The government will provide for you, not unconditionally (you are required to look for a job or reeducate) but they will.

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

What if you can't work? It was more of a rethorical question, as I know from personal experience, you can be very close to homelessness very quick. The different agencies will tell you that another is resposible and you get nothing for a very long time.

Yes it is a lot better rhan in the US and other places, but homeless people being homeless by choice is just not true and frankly a disgusting claim.

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Can you prove this is a systematic issue? I know various people who lost their job or had to claim IV and not one of these was at risk of loosing the roof over their head.

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net 0 points 14 hours ago

I don't have to prove anything, as an indovidual case invalidates your claim.

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

No an individual case might be a mistake. You would have to proof a systematic behaviour of our government to prove that it does not usually work fine.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

What the hell is this, socialism? 🥴

[-] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 20 hours ago

I suppose inheritance would still be subject to income tax? Wouldn't it be better to have more income tax slabs?

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

There is zero taxation on Inheritance in certain cantons. Or am I misunderstanding your question?

[-] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 hours ago

As in if you inherit some assets valued at X, is it treated as an additional source of income for that year, or as a tax free gift?

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

It depends on the canton but where I live it is a tax free gift.

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago

Just read a post on linkedin (yeah i know) from Andri Silberschmidt, vice-president of the market-liberal FDP, warning of the initiative. It sounded like he was afraid hehe

[-] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

Not even a little Nazi gold tax?

[-] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

ESPECIALLY no Nazi gold tax, what are you thinking?!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Nope. Gotta keep passing down that stolen generational wealth.

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