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Senator Josh Hawley was in his office, fumbling with a collection of outdated gadgets. His desk was cluttered with a clunky flip-phone, a ancient computer tower, and stacks of CDs labeled “Software for Dummies.” He had just been reading about this newfangled AI technology that everyone was buzzing about—though he wasn’t entirely sure what an AI was.
The phone rang, jolting him out of his thoughts. He fumbled with the flip-phone, trying to press the correct buttons to answer. When he finally managed to say “Hello,” his voice dripped with confusion.
“Senator Hawley, this is Greg from OpenAI. I wanted to discuss your proposed legislation about AI downloads,” the voice on the other end said.
Hawley leaned back in his chair, trying to look wise. “Legislation? Oh, right, that’s what they call laws these days. Something about jailing people who download stuff from China.”
Greg sighed. “It’s not just about downloading, Senator. It’s about AI models—complex software that can learn and adapt, like DeepSeek.”
Hawley’s brow furrowed. He hadn’t heard of DeepSeek before. “DeepSeek? That sounds communist to me. Probably tracking your thoughts or something.”
Greg tried to explain how AI works, but Hawley kept interrupting with questions about old technologies he thought were relevant. “So if someone downloads this AI, it’s like a CD-ROM, right? You just stick it in and hope it works?”
Greg pressed on, trying to translate the concept of cloud computing into terms Hawley might understand. “It’s more like... a virtual flip-phone that you can talk to without actually holding it.”
Hawley looked down at his desk, where his actual flip-phone was sitting. “I’m not sure I follow. Why would downloading this AI be bad?”
“Because DeepSeek is state-sponsored and could be used maliciously,” Greg said. “It’s like giving someone a modem to the Chinese government.”
Hawley brightened up. “Oh! Like that time I tried to use a dial-up connection? That was dangerous, wasn’t it? You didn’t know who was listening!”
Greg couldn’t help but laugh. “I’m not sure you’re understanding this correctly, Senator. This isn’t about phone calls or CDs—it’s about advanced algorithms that could change everything.”
Hawley stood up, clutching his flip-phone like it was a weapon. “Advanced? Sounds like the kind of thing that could be used to spy on people or start wars! Just like those CDs I tried to use once—they had some kind of communist software.”
Greg hesitated but decided to play along. “So you’re saying if someone downloads DeepSeek, they might be helping a foreign power? That’s why you want to jail them?”
Hawley nodded vigorously. “Exactly! It’s like having a modem without the filter. I propose jailing these people to protect our freedoms.”
Greg exchanged a glance with his colleague, who was now staring at him in disbelief. Finally, he said, “ Senator, this isn’t how technology works. If you jail people for downloading AI models, you’re not protecting innovation—you’re stifling it.”
Hawley squinted at Greg as if he were staring into the sun. “Stifle? I’m trying to stop something dangerous. You think I don’t know about this communist tech? I’ve seen it on the internet—full of viruses and stuff.”
Greg took a deep breath, realizing there was no way to reason with Hawley in this state. “Well, if that’s your stance, just remember: you’re not alone. There are people out there who think AI is a threat.”
Hawley smirked. “Good. People like me keep them in check.”
The call finally ended, and Greg sat back in his chair, shaking his head. “Senator Hawley is running for re-election,” he muttered to himself. “And if this bill passes, it’s going to be a nightmare.”
As for Senator Hawley, he was already back at his desk, scribbling notes about how to protect the country from “AI invasions.” He had no idea what he was up against—but one thing was certain: he was ready to fight.
The USA is in panic mode, they thought they could undermine China's development just like they did with ball-sucking Europe, now there is a need for other nation to come up with their own models, and show the US they should stop underpinning monopolies.
Its open source lol. Why don't the tech billionaires innovate? Instead they just ban competitors
turns out all that shit about open markets, free trade, competition was just while they had no competition to exploit it after WW2 left Europe and Asia devastated, now that China (with their own protectionism) is doing it better than the US...back to protectionism and fascism.
These people will keep pushing and pushing. They know this is ridiculous, but if they flood the public with this bullshit, eventually the overton window shifts and people get brainwashed into thinking cult shit like this is good.
not back-dated so download away fellas (not sure if a law can apply on acts before it was a law)
Ex post facto laws are expressly prohibited in Article I, so they can't pass a law criminalizing downloads from before the law was passed.
They can, however, criminalize possessing a copy of DeepSeek. In that case you'd be legally required to delete it after the law passed.
They also can't amend the constitution via executive order or deport US citizens, but watch them try it anyway
Yup.
"they can't do that, that's illegal!"
Shame the law doesn't mean Jack Fucking Shit now.
The law is whatever they want it to be at any moment.
That order lasted about 10 minutes before a judge appointed by Ronald Fucking Reagan.
Not sure about the laws wording, but if it is open source just create a branch with a different name.
I have seekdeep, nothing at all like DeepSeek
In principle: no. But Americans no longer have any principles (or never did in the first place)
Hehe...that shit makes me laugh
Wow, bold choice to ban the import of technology and knowledge. Usually governments are worried about export, so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.
Btw, how is the Nvidia stock price doing?
To be fair, this is common practice. Countries do this all the time to protect their economies. Mostly known in the West is China which banned many US services.
Of course, security of the data of the citizens is also a factor. You don’t want foreign countries use this data to interfere in any way.
Honestly, I don't think this is common practice in non-oppressive countries. I mean sure, this happens in North Korea, Iran, China... But I'm relatively free to consume what I want with a few minor exceptions. For example we don't import food that isn't food-safe by our standards. Regardless if it's common practice to eat it in other places. Also food may not be able to enter the country due to laws on animal cruelty. Similar things apply to electronic devices that aren't up to code. And some select few things are banned altogether and you can't have them and neither can someone import them. Other than that, regulations aren't super strict. I can use all American social media platforms despite them stealing my personal data and violating European privacy laws regularly, can use Russian or Chinese websites... I think I live in a free country.
Helping domestic economy is done with tariffs / import tax. And not by banning things and putting people in jail.
And mind that this isn't about the service that collects your data and gives it to the Chinese government. This is about downloading the model file and using it all by yourself. So no data gets transferred to a foreign country. And it's not because people could get harmed or anything. This is just because the vice president doesn't want it personally. Like in some dictatorship. Otherwise they would have banned transferring data into foreign countries, if that's what it's about. But they didn't do that, because it's not about protecting the people.
Or did I miss something and there are other examples for limitations on import?
No, I think you did not miss anything 😇
Good summary
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Fascist regime and power/police abuse has started.
P.S.: It seems like the US is becoming similar to Russia, kleptocratic country and organised crime in government.
Every step unchallenged is an invitation to do more.
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For Base Model
git lfs install git clone https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base
For Chat Model
git lfs install git clone https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3
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Hawley’s statement called DeepSeek “a data-harvesting, low-cost AI model that sparked international concern and sent American technology stocks plummeting.”
data-harvesting
???
It runs offline... using open-source software that provably does not collect or transmit any data...
It is low-cost and out-competes American technology, though, true
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This is astounding.
I mean, not the Deepseek or jailing stuff. I mean a Senator actually proposing a law. I thought the way our government worked was, the annoying orange declares a vague uncited threat to be bad, and signs an executive order on it!
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