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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 138 points 2 years ago
[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 127 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Remember when Aaron Swartz tried to do something similar and received multiple life sentences

[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And was intimidated so bad by the legal system he killed himself.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What Swartz did was not even close. What he did was absolutely fair use. He downloaded shit from JSTOR while at MIT which is fine because MIT allows students and employees to access JSTOR. There was no evidence that he shared anything.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 2 years ago

His real crime is threatening profits of a corporation...

MIT is forever disgraced for their conduct and should be stripped of their tax exempt status.

[–] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If they don't respect copyright I don't respect it either

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We just need to wait until copyright regulations get killed... Right?

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 13 points 2 years ago

Right?

Right...?

Surely they would...

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Copyright lobby begs to differ. 😂

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My Mullvad account begs to differ. And it makes my banker happy!

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Meta did not immediately respond to Ars' request for comment and has maintained throughout the litigation that AI training on LibGen was "fair use."

When I upload a single half century old photo to Wikipedia, I have to fill out a relatively complicated form proving that it meets "fair use" standards. Internet Archive got legally fucked for allowing people to read their book scans without restriction for a while. And now these absolute cunts have the gall to defer to "fair use"! I really wonder if the same authors and publishing houses who sued IA will do anything about this.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See, Meta is rich and US laws don't seem to apply to American oligarchs.

[–] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“Plaintiffs do not plead a single instance in which any part of any book was, in fact, downloaded by a third party from Meta via torrent, much less that Plaintiffs’ books were somehow distributed by Meta,” the company writes.

Another reason to hate Meta, now they're scummy leechers even though they could afford the bandwidth to seed back

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Capitalists aren't in the business of sharing.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 years ago

Parasite's entire MO is to never give back.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 2 years ago

Downloading and seeding are very legally different.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of course they didn't seed. Fucking leeches.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

They were leeches without the torrenting.

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 60 points 2 years ago

This doesn’t mean that Meta denies using shadow libraries, its argument is that using such data to train its LLM models constitutes fair use under U.S. copyright law.

Oh wow, I'm very much looking forward to this argument... "We believe pirating the copyrighted commercial works of others en masse to develop our own commercial product constitutes fair use... China bad!"

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 years ago

And they probably never reseeded it afterwards either, the inconsiderate prats

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago

And they should pay for every book they stole :)

[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago

What do you think?

Meta also allegedly modified settings "so that the smallest amount of seeding possible could occur,"

[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

I don't usually like Meta, but here they used that data to produce open weights models available to the public. That sort of thing is what piracy is for so I support it.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

That's a lot of Far Side books.