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[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 173 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Canada’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Mélanie Joly had one stark warning to share Wednesday: “If the U.S. can do this to us, their closest friend, then nobody is safe.”

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 97 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Except Russia and North Korea

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For now, fascists always turn on their allies eventually, they always need an enemy

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They always need someone to blame for their ever descending new level of hell they've made of society.

Fascists sell off society a plank at a time while telling the angry, ignorant crowd which powerless scapegoat is to blame this week.

Hell, my fellow Americans have been blaming powerless homeless people, the neighbors we've failed as a society, for hurting their property values with their inconsiderate continued existence while destitute since before Donnie was fake firing people on brain rotting reality TV, solely because the for profit media told them to do so as they counted those gullible idiot's money.

Sabotaging education has made us a nation of suckers.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Agreed, the ability to create a false dichotomy between “the average American” and whoever is “different” based on income, social status, race, sex, etc is what has kept the rich in power for years. Putin capitalized upon this, used social media to stir the pot, and ended our government, as was the plan since at least 1997:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

It’s sad how it was predicted around the same time (1995) by Carl Sagan:

I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance

Part of that celebration of ignorance is what got us here. People less willing to learn about space, math, physics, biology, ethics, or philosophy; and more willing to watch steroid-pumped dudes on joe Rogan, moving their mentality from thinking wrestling is real to thinking the hosts on the latter have any credibility.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah yes, the joys of being politically convenient but also globally irrelevant.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nobody is safe....except israel.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Unless Israel doesn't provide the 50 virgins trump ordered and the beach front areas requested.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Nah, Karmas coming for them.

Not because of some just world fallacy, they were just fucking stupid to build their supposed "promised land" on top of people who were already there, and surrounded by more people that it pissed off.

Iran's got a nuclear something for their ass sooner or later. Which will be WWIII, but Israel is Scrappy Doo, they're not as big as they think they are, and they just keep pushing, they will be pushed back, because a shittier neighbor by actions there is none.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

As a Californian, I would love for us to become Canada’s newest province.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

They don't want us. I already asked. But CA, OR, and WA can secede and make Cascadia minus the Canadian portion.

[–] MariMini91@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

New England needs to consider leaving the US too. It's like we are in an abusive relationship now.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

I grew up in Vermont and I live in Canada now. Please don't make me go back, lol.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nah. As a canukian, I'm down with it

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As a resident of the Canadian portion of Cascadia I'd be in favour of a European style union of your former states and Canada. Unfortunately you're too big and too ~~American (for lack of a better term)~~ heavily armed [found it] to just let you in. Maybe we could handle Hawaii but I'm sure they'd probably rather be their own country than join us which is totally fair.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad Arizona is in the way, NM wants to join you at least parts of us do.

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wouldn't, as Canadian, because California would fully dominate such a union. It would be Canada joining California, not the reverse. Economically, politically, you'd be the biggest and most important province. I doubt you'll be happy being part of Confederation or being technically a monarchy.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Conveniently, if any states were to join Canada, they would most likely do so as territories (at least initially), and so would be somewhat politically neutered.

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[–] kotg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Hate to say it but imho trump would not let you leave. Is this something you guys are discussing with each other, I am genuinely interested.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It’s not up to Trump. The Constitution doesn’t let us leave. That doesn’t mean we can’t, it means we will immediately be at war with the US if we do.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, Cali is already at war with the US. The current administration is already talking about withholding all kinds of random shit for cali. That sounds like an attack to me.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump has already drained some reservoirs without consulting experts, plus ICE is on the prowl. California is going to feel serious pain come harvest season.

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[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The way things are going , do you think the American constitution will mean anything by 2028?

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I will never forgive Lincoln for not telling the south to not let the door hit their asses on the way out.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

He died before he could see Reconstruction through, and his successor killed it.

Mind, Lincoln should have mass executed all significant leaders in the south. Offering mercy to those of a Nazi bearing always ends up damaging society. Better to put them down, rather than letting the infection fester.

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[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

It would suit you so much. You’re the best state. I love California.

[–] jownz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Hmm.. CA, CA. 🤔

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

As a Californian I would love that just so I never had to be counted in the same group as the south.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Alta California the newest and northernmost state of Mexico

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing that stands out for me is how open this is. You kind of get used to trump running his mouth off and then other countries representatives continuing with their polite politician-speak, as normal.

I guess Canada are totally sure that people need to know what's going on and that's kinda scary.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

they're just saying what most americans have been screaming since 2016

[–] CanadaPlus 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The close cultural affinity gives us better insight. Europeans seem to see Americans through Hollywood. We see them shopping at Walmart.

[–] sp3ctre@feddit.org 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We must stand together against the orange man.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They should ban the orange dye he uses and let him look pale and sick, this poor sleepy Don.

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It is not just Trump, there is very little coming from the US that is not complete acceptance of his actions. For a long time the rest of the world called the USA the great satan and I think Western powers are beginning to see it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

For a long time I've worried that one day the USA would realize Canada has water, natural resources and strategic coastline, and suddenly all the "friendship" would become void and we'd get to experience what the USA has always done to countries with things it wants. But with Trump this has happened quicker than expected, and he's going to push hard to crush our country before we have time to defend ourselves. He's also going to try to divide European countries and Canada against one another. It's crucial that Europe and Canada find some solidarity right now and stand together in the face of the danger from the USA.

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

The US just does not have the power to take on its allies and the rest of the world in open aggression. Any thought that it does is illusory, look at relatively small countries like Vietnam and Afghanistan where it just had to leave or the terrible mess of the Middle East. It can not colonise in the way it was possible to do 200 years ago, the power asymmetry is just not there. Added into that many of the targeted countries are nuclear powers and part of numerous combined defense treaties. Any real action he takes will be visited back on him in equal or larger measure. At some level the US if not Trump must instinctively understand this, it is the past rational for proxy over direct wars.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

The thing is Canada would just peacefully trade with us if we would let them, and Donald Trump is clearly using mein Kampf as an instruction manual, he's basically all like "the first thing the Nazis did? The Anschluss! I guess we're going to have to Anschluss Canada"

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

The joke that America is just 3 corporations in a trenchcoat is pretty accurate. There's a very small number of corporations that control almost all the media and the owners are oligarchs, willing to bend the knee so they can continue their dominance.

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[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

"...but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!”

Why does that quote from Krasnov immediately give Russia vibes 🤔

[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Europe is pretty much safe. We got the French. If the world was a marvel movie, they’d be the Hulk.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am an out of the loop American, why France?

I know France has nukes but not much else

[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I’ll do my best to give you a short introduction.

Ever heard of the French revolution and the beheading of rich people? Let's put it this way, there are no more beheadings but when the government does something that the majority of the population doesn't like, things start to burn and shit breaks. "Liberté" is a big part if not the biggest part of French culture.

The same goes for their military. France was a colonial power for many centuries. And doesn't put up with anything if someone tries to act stupid. Like recently when France sent a nuclear submarine to Canada when Trump said he wanted to annex Canada. They also have the Foreign Legion which anyone can join and is considered one of the toughest armies in the world.

I've only scratched the surface, but France is basically what you get if fuck around and find out was a country.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

internally that sounds great, I wish the US would do the same, the French know how to protest and fight against the rich

internationally the US Navy has a bigger air force than France does and we have states with more land mass, just not sure what France can do to stand up to the US bully

but I’m glad EU is mostly united against this bullshit and again France has nukes so the US can’t risk that

Ukraine should never have given them up and no one will again

[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

America has, without a doubt, the biggest military power. Such great power in the hands of a toddler.

It sad that it has to be like that. I wish we had something like United Nations of Earth like they predicted it in the 70s-90s.

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