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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Spotify shouldn't be on this list... They exploit artists and platform joe rogans horseshit for profit

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

And i think they donated money to Trump also.

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[–] jagermo@feddit.org 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I would recommend deezer over Spotify. Spotify enables Rogan and all his bullshit

[–] Kualdir@feddit.nl 8 points 5 days ago

Qobuz! It pays artists the best out of any streaming service appartenly

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

How is deezer these days? Last time I used it is many years ago.

edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Industries Access Industries owns Deezer. They invest in the US and Israel and have donated millions to republicans in the past.

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[–] fusiono@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

New version still misspells it "Mastadon" haha

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[–] EuroCentrist@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why not use something like Matrix (Element) as a messenger alternative?

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[–] gon@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Both Tuta and Proton have a free tier for their email. Also, I think Infomaniak's kmail might be an even better replacement for the typical email/cloud providers than the aforementioned, for normies at least.

[–] Linearity@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Orion is not a paid browser. Kagi, however, is a paid search engine, and Orion was made by the Kagi team. The browser is completely free and is in all Apple OSs (coming to Linux soon) and gathers absolutely no data. And the browser comes with no search engine chosen by default so it isn’t really an ad for Kagi.

I personally think it’s amazing especially how you can have both Firefox and Chrome extensions on it. Its only issue is it being proprietary.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

Orion was really well made. It is still beta, but when it is more stable, I'll give it a second go! 100% recommended.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Why Waterfox over LibreWolf? I have only used LibreWolf, which is my 99%-of-the-time browser, and I am curious.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Why does nobody ever remember about the Vivaldi browser?

[–] simbico@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

It's also chromium based. But other than that it's european and a pretty cool browser!

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

What makes Vivaldi better than other Chromium-based browsers in terms of privacy and such?

[–] gon@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

Well, certainly not nobody, I hear it mentioned quite often on the internet! Just make sure to keep talking about it, if you want it to get more popular :D

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

After switching your search engine, hop into your European time-machine and go back to February to continue this guide.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Again, add Matrix or xmpp instead of just Signal & Disroot as well in the email section

[–] AEGIS2317@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

can anybody explain why people hate on Waterfox? I'm using it for over a year now and it's been great so far!

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I think it's about none of Firefox forks being remotely capable of evolving on their own. So any large scale push to leave Firefox for any of these forks might only hurt Firefox which would in turn hurt its forks.

My insignificant opinion on the matter is that it's great to have different flavors of Firefox that might be better suited for you, but it doesn't appear to lead to a solution to the underlying issue.

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[–] RandomPrivacyGuy@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

why people hate on Waterfox?

it used to be owned by an ad company, so I guess some people just don't want to put their trust back in yet

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would be more interested in why they didn't go with LibreWolf?

[–] AEGIS2317@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i tried librewolf about 2 years ago but it didn't quite work for me since it's high security settings were breaking the sites i visited :O

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Breaks almost every site on the settings I've given it, by my design -- at least, until I grant the site some permissions. You don't get to run code on my browser unless I SAY you can!

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In what way is mastodon privacy focused?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago

focused is not a good word for it but i do think it's fair to say that not actively milking you for data is caring about privacy these days.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Well, the flyer originated here: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1jcr8ks/here_is_the_new_and_improved_guide_to_help_you/ but mastodon stands out as it has no commercial driver. There aren't any ad-services profiling you, so that is a big win for your privacy.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Is it possible to set up a signal server, or is it not completely FOSS?

[–] ueeu@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

@Valmond @SrMono

If you want to selfhost your own messenger, you can with Matrix or XMPP. XMPP, for ex, is the protocol used by WhatsApp.

Edited: removed Signal. Actually it seems it's the encryption tool (OMEMO) for XMPP that is based on Signal protocol.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would my friends on signal be able to connect to that?

[–] ueeu@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

@Valmond @jerkface

Maybe we're wrong but for the moment they're not interoperable.

But the new European DMA regulation requires platforms to be interoperable. Meta and Apple are obliged now to open up their apps to communicate with smaller rival apps such as Signal. Apps using XMPP may be allowed to communicate with other apps in the future, although this seems to pose some security risks.

Some information about the requirement for interoperability between messengers:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/eu-digital-markets-acts-interoperability-rule-addresses-important-need-raises

@ueeu @Valmond @jerkface And I'm definitely not in favour of interoperability for a lot of things.

If I don't want to be on WhatsApp, Messenger, Threads, or whatever, why would I want my Signal messages to end up there?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

XMPP, for ex, is the protocol used by WhatsApp and Signal.

Whaaaa, really??

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It isn't at all. It is closed source powered by an American non-profit organization. You can consider this organization as friendly.

They recurrently said, they would shut the gates if U.S. government/law wants them to store more than metdata (phone number+last activity date) they are storing.

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Honest question, is Switzerland a part of the EU now, or do they just get a pass for being surrounded?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago

It's like norway, the only way in which they're not part of the EU is that they don't get to vote and they have a handful of exceptions to highly specific things, e.g. norway REALLY doesn't want to let anyone else tell them how to fish.

[–] rraggl@mastodon.nl 5 points 4 days ago

@RvTV95XBeo @SrMono No, but what is your gripe? Located in Europe. Spend most of their money in Europe and have the same general mentality. Strongly focused on privacy.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

They are not an official member, but being surrounded by EU countries lead to them being included in a lot of treaties and such.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These charts are pretty bad put a little more effort in

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