I don't think it's "growing," more that as society continues to get worse people's outlooks grow darker.
this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2025
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The amount of dogshit takes from 2 week old to 3 month old accounts is absurd, Lemmy instances should institute a one month lurking period or something. Some fuckass actually posted Asmongold to a gaming group. Its a tidal wave.
Its the internet, no matter how much people here like to think lemmy is some kind of special utopia its no different to any other site or social media.
More people more drama. I rarely see rudeness in my experience
I've found much more genuine, honest discussion on here than other platforms. More people say thanks when someone corrects them. I feel like I'm talking to reasonable adults, for the most part.
The Tumblr effect
Thing allows freedom of speech Thing now has "bad apples" Thing either get lobotomized or accomodates with that freedom.
I feel like casual rudeness and insults have become more common as more people have come over from Reddit.
God damet, redditors ruining a nice thing again :(
The first few waves of people are going to be the asshats that got banned for one thing or another. Some good people, mostly bad apples.
Are people negative and rude or not expressed passion towards anything?
Also, I think there is a good passion for tech surrounding this community. I like that.
Yeah ! Except in the dev/code realm... They seem very aggressive to each other, specially if you whisper something like: Rust is safer than C !
I don't really get it, but I find It very pleasant to read when passionate people write a whole essay I don't even understand 1/10 of what they are writing... However, there seems some heated negativity in that community !
Okay, there are three reasons why this is:
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Anonymity grants people the ability to be assholes.
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You've done something or said something that was going to get people riled up over.
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People from rejected instances, sites .etc come here to carry over their shitty nature.
What communities are you frequenting?
The ones I sub and post to have been nice.
Same here
We're negative doomscrollers, true. But most people seem pretty polite, at least in my experience.
I can be negative. But I love people and want the best for everyone. What I don't like are the toxic systems of control that some people are under, and some people follow. Aand sometimes I can be swept up in the injustice, and lose my patience with extreme followers.
I apologise in advance to this community if I make someone's mood worse, instead of better. I can often fail, and yet we should all strive to be a healthy member of the communities we inhabit!
Please also report people being rude, that's a temp ban here.
What's with all the downvotes? I swear there has to be vote manipulation going on with some of these threads.
ehhh i wouldn't it way to start and angry mob and sometimes i dont trust mods descension. since even servers with no rules will make up reasons for a ban
Find the best available option? Or start your own server with no rules and attract others who want no rules?
I think a good community would have restrictions to avoid unnecessary hate
Itβs probably a downstream effect of the souring mood in the United States as the consequences of the current administration and our slide into fascism become increasingly apparent. Canβt speak for the rest of the world, but itβs hard to believe things are getting better out there.
You'll have to be more specific. I'm not seeing any unusual amount of negativity.
What's that thing about expressing any passion? What do you mean by that?
Go to any political post. Everyone is calling others names and itβs not productive at all.
But that's humans? It's always been like that, everywhere at all times. The only thing that's changed, maybe, is that Lemmy is growing and there's more discussion in general so of course the absolute number of things that cause name-calling has grown too, just like the absolute number of things that don't.
That's not true. Go to youtube and read the comments under any lofi video but that's just one example. When Lemmy just started it was a place for people to escape the fanatics and now it's becoming more toxic.
And that's Youtube, an entirely different place that isn't the topic of discussion here and that's ALSO always been Like That. Never Look At The Comments is received wisdom.
Selection bias mostly, you only remember the negative interactions. I'm new here but I've not run into any particularly negative or rude people so they don't seem super common, nowhere near like reddit.
yeah i noticed they tend to go after certain posts and they need to be primed by either downvotes or a comment. the rude people will be quiet if you make safe posts but if they get a hint that there other people that don't like you then they dogpile. i noticed a good way to trigger it is to basically say or imply you do things without their approval or you dont care what they think
That sounds.. rather conspiratorial.
Also, just yesterday I posted a longish rant about doing what you want and not caring about what people think in a comment and the only reply I got was 'This is the kind of pep talk I need!', so.. shrug Guess we travel in different circles.
well i don't say that its orchestrated or premeditated, its generally that group wants to feel part of a group and they look for signs that they're part of a group. the "tipping point" is a comment (or even a downvote on op replies) and then people that seek approval align themselves with the largest group.
I told the anti ai crowd that i was going to make an ai bot somewhere on the fediverse just to see how people would interact with it fedizens, simply to satify my curiosity, so that's the context. i just telling people "you're being an asshole to me and making demands from me while I'm just trying to hear you out, so i don't feel like changing for you"
My bad, perhaps the better word to use would've been paranoid. Had a similar ring to 'they only come out when no one else is looking', ya know?
Oh okay. I did have a conversation I tried to explain a litteral conspiracy and I kept getting called a conspiracy theorist
My theory is that for-profit social media companies push conflict and controversy because it increases βengagement.β So, people are conditioned to be hostile and hiss like a cat at the first sign of disagreement (real or imagined). Lemmy, obviously, has different incentives.
Itβs happening on Mastodon and BlueSky too. I try to respond with kindness and sincerity. (I donβt always succeed. I kind of suck at it, to be honest. But if we all even can halfass human decency, itβll be better than most of the internet.)
+1 ! Need to work on my morning Lemmy scrolling... Grumpy as fuck and not being nice to people sucks :// !
Things are hard out there, and that makes people feel like finding hills to die on. The less stressful life is, the better the discourse, usually.
i noticed that too. i chalk it up to people are always seeking approval and they want to tell express to everyone how the think and feel in hopes that people will express the same. its not everyone id say at most 30%. also you have to keep in mind that this is where the reddit rejects go (i can say that word because i got banned off of reddit lol).
another user got mad and attacked me for saying "my morality and logic is different" and said nothing about why my differences is bad.