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Let us not censor reality as "Kremlin talking points"

By Glenn Diesen, professor at the University of Southeast Norway

The narrative that it is impossible to negotiate with Russia has led hundreds of thousands to lose their lives on the battlefield.

Critiques of the narratives about the War in Ukraine are often dismissed by claiming that these critiques repeat "Kremlin talking points" and "Russian propaganda". I believe loyalty to these war narratives ignore reality and contribute to the destruction of Ukraine. The diplomat and author Niccolò Machiavelli wrote 500 years ago that human beings do not wish to see the world as it really is, and that this will lead to our downfall.

The invasion was not unprovoked

Russia sees NATO's expansion into Ukraine as an existential threat, something Western and Russian leaders have warned about for the past 30 years. Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Moscow sees Ukrainian NATO membership as a "declaration of war".

William Burns, former director of the USA's Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), claimed that Russia would feel compelled to intervene [if Ukraine were to pursue NATO membership]. It is irrelevant whether or not one agrees with Moscow's interpretations; ignoring these interpretations was what set us on the road to war.

The New York Times confirms that immediately after the Western-backed regime change in Ukraine in 2014, the new Ukrainian chief of intelligence called the CIA and Britain's MI6 to start a hidden war against Russia. Moscow was Ukraine's most important partner just a few days before. The Washington Post wrote in 2023 that the USA rebuilt the Ukrainian security services "from the bottom up" to serve as an ally against Russia.

NATO countries sabotaged peace negotiations

CIA bases were established along the Russian border, something the New York Times confirms was a cause of Russia's invasion. The narrative of an unprovoked invasion necessarily implies a lack of diplomatic solutions.

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyj said in March 2022, "It is the Westerners who have nothing against a long war, because that would mean wearing down Russia, even if this means Ukraine's destruction and costs [many] Ukrainians' lives." Both Turkish and Israeli [sic] negotiators said that Russia and Ukraine nearly had a peace treaty in 2022, but that the USA and UK sabotaged the treaty in order to utilize Ukraine in a war with Russia.

Former Inspector General of the Bundeswehr Harald Kujat confirms this.

The narrative that says that it is impossible to negotiate with Russia led to diplomacy being thrown out the window for three years while hundreds of thousands of young men died on the battlefield.

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[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Here we go, things are starting to unravel now that they can blame Trump, they can stop bullshitting and admit everything they were saying for the past several years was a complete lie, so they can claim to be "transparent" about their reporting. Once the next war starts up we'll all get to see this exact same cycle again, the libs will condemn the Ukraine war and say they never supported it, while frothing at the mouth at the thought of whatever conflict is happening at the time.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago

I feel like Donald Trump's role in the system is to serve as a sort of "scapegoat", whether it be domestically in Seppoland, where he, presented as some sort of extraordinary "fluke", is permitted to get his hands dirty with whatever crude, horrific, or apparently brainless policies imperialism demands to survive; or internationally, where, as you say, because the bourgeoisie of other imperialist countries can pin the "failings" of Septic foreign policy on Trump, they can strategically reorient their own narratives.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

marxism is being right too soon

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

the cross they're meant to bear...

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So, this is obviously an opinion piece, which means it isn't necessarily reflecting Aftenposten's actual editorial line per se, but the fact remains that after years of Aftenposten taking a hard pro-NATO stance, they decided to give this opinion piece a platform. Could this perhaps be a sign that Aftenposten is preparing for an eventual switch of editorial line on the Ukraine issue, from a hard pro-NATO to a NATO-critical stance? There has been a notable increase in NATO-critical coverage of and opinion pieces about Ukraine across the world's bourgeois press, but this is the first I've heard of such a thing in Norway — though I obviously don't read every single article in every single bourgeois publication about Ukraine, so I can't assert that this is an actual objective first.

Aftenposten is owned by Schibsted ASA.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Israeli [sic]

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