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Summary

Trump snapped at a reporter who asked how much economic pain he was willing to inflict amid plunging markets triggered by his new tariffs.

Speaking after a weekend at his Florida resort, Trump dismissed speculation he was trying to crash the market, claiming tariffs would bring in "$1 trillion" and spur U.S. manufacturing.

When asked about a pain threshold for Americans, he called the question "so stupid," arguing economic “medicine” was necessary to reverse decades of "stupid leadership."

He insisted the strategy would make the U.S. "solid and strong again."

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago

He will tolerate none for himself.

The rest of us can get fucked. STFU about the price of eggs, right? He’s no longer president. He’s gone full dictator. This is all about him.

Can we just elect Camacho? He's more qualified than whatever the fuck we got now

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago
[–] mhague@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Americans circa 2025 about to take their economic medicine

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

"sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something"

Exactly, medicine exists to fix something. What Trump is doing is substance abuse.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Donald doesn't have to tolerate any pain. He's a billionaire. Billionaire's way of life will still be unbelievably fabulous. It's us that suffer at their expense.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

He's a billionaire.

Allegedly. His inability to pay some of the judgments against him calls that into question, e.g. the E. Jean Carrol suit. If nothing else, he definitely has a billionaire mindset.

[–] 2deck@lemmy.world 59 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This rhetoric seems similar to that used by Milton Friedman and the Chicago school of economics. They applied 'economic therapy' to left-leaning economies in the late 1900s which involved rapid privatization of nationally owned industries. Negatively affected many otherwise healthy countries including England, Russia and Chilie.

The Shock Doctrine does a round robin of these events; highly recommended.

Project 2025 is about privatizing branches of government while citizens are too busy dealing with the fallout of economic collapse.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

They're seriously going to privatize the weather service and social security if we do not continue to take to the streets.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 hours ago

Russia was not healthy when it applied shock therapy. The Soviet Union was collapsing, massive political instability in Moscow, all sorts of countries moving out of the Russian sphere of influence, the first Chechen war started and so forth. It was fairly obvious that big decision had to be made, but unfortunatly Russia choose poorly.

Even if his tariffs do bring in $1 trillion, that's not even half the loss his tariffs have cause in just 3 days.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Haha. Trumps funny

[–] mapmyhike@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

tRump always speaks in a clear, concise, fact based, evidence based, and in a verifiable manner. He uses proof such as "medicine," "stupid," "someone said," "I heard," "everyone is saying." "Economic medicine," what is that?

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely, and what I like best about him is his trustworthiness and respect for women.

[–] Lunar_Voyager@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He's also a genius businessman who will run our country like his businesses, which will be great and lead to widespread prosperity.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

A special kind of genius that can bankrupt a casino multiple times. How do you fuck up a license to print money?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

He's not tolerating squat when it comes to any pain, for ANY of his actions, least of all his tariff fuckery.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago

Trump will endure precisely zero economic pain since he is rich. He doesn't have to go through anything. He sits in a literal ivory tower why would he feel bad about anything?

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 81 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Everybody is thinking way, way too much into this.

If Trump would have to answer a question where he doesn't know the answer, or would have to admit that people disagree with him, or he feels even mildly challenged, this is considered a personal attack on him. You are trying to get him to admit to not being 100% perfect 100% of the time. And he responds to that by lashing out like a small child, attacking you, making up childish names for you, and insulting you. This is how he has always responded.

This has nothing to do with his thoughts on economic policies or the effects of his tariffs. He doesn't think far enough ahead to either know or care. This reporter had the audacity to challenge him, and Trump lashed out. That's all. That's how he always responds.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

So true. You don't have to dig deep into any of his responses when you criticize anything about him. He will lash out. He's a child. That's it.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 hours ago

I can't understand how more people don't understand this. There's no depth to any of this. An immature, ignorant, narrow-minded idiot doing immature, ignorant, narrow-minded things. The media's sane washing is to blame, I guess, if not the straight propaganda from right wing outlets. But at this point if you're still giving the benefit of the doubt you're part of the problem.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 38 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

The only way I see the US becoming "solid and strong again", is a revolution that results in a Constitution v2.0 that fixes many issues with the structure of government, voting, and setting rules regarding wealth. Otherwise, odds are that the US will splinter apart into several major bodies.

On the plus side of splintering, it means many conservatives would flee out of Blue States, and the Blue States get more people who believe in governance, science, democracy, and society. They would be far more stronger and influential than Red States in the long run. Blue States won't have to play ball with stupid conservative ideas, such as non-medical vaccine exemptions, anti-migrant policies, and so forth.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

At least one revolution is already underway, but those responsible for the current change are wearing red hats. The neo-reactionary Butterfly Revolution.

Unfortunately, most Democratic Party politicians today are the real conservatives in the sense that they simply want to preserve the old system.

And there are people who identify as Democrats but are increasingly disillusioned, who want reform or revolution in the direction of a egalitarian, democratic society with strong social welfare systems geared toward equity (let’s hope they grow in number), not in the direction of the elitist, authoritarian, technofeudalist, rigid hierarchical society proposed by adherents of the Dark Enlightenment ideas. Such people could redirect the current Butterfly Revolution in the opposite direction and foment division among Republicans.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

A split would create North Korea 2.0

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

A split would create North and South Koreas. If we don't split, I'm afraid we will only get North Korea 2.0

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Trump bankrupted a casino, is anyone surprised he's doing the same to America.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wrong. WRONG!
It was more than one casino.

1991: Trump Taj Mahal
1992: Trump Castle Hotel & Casino
1992: Trump Plaza Casino
1992: Trump Plaza Hotel (not a casino, 'just' a hotel.)
2004: Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts
2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts (casino holding company)

There are numerous other businesses that failed spectacularly, too.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Then there are the failed businesses that were neverbsupposed to succeed because they were fraud from the inception, like Trump University. They announced it and promoted it, and signed up students, who took out student loans ffrom the government and sent them to thebadmissions department.

Then it turned out that they never bought/ rented a single building, hired no teachers, never created a curriculum, etc. They didn't do one thing to create a school except sign up students and take their student loan money. It didn't go bankrupt, it never existed, but they sold it anyway.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Trump Vodka was a success UNTIL he came out as a non-drinker. Tanked his business.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago

Its time to revive Trump Steaks with our "beautiful beef."

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 70 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

... Even... if Trump... can bring in $1 trillion... somehow...

US stock markets have wiped out $ 9 trillion in market cap since Trump became President.

.... So uh. Yeah.

1 - 9 is -8, Don.

Great plan.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 51 points 16 hours ago (13 children)

That $1 trillion he's claiming also comes from the pockets of Americans, so it's more like - 1 - 9 = - 10.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 141 points 19 hours ago

Well, it is a stupid question. A real journalist would ask how much more pain he's willing to let the American people tolerate for his poorly disguised reverse pump and dump scheme

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

His motives may be unclear, but his actions are crystal clear. He’s tried to enact tariffs already and been stopped before they were implemented because everyone knows the level of damage they cause. He’s moving forward this time. He’s deliberately crashing the global economy.

Why? Who knows? His Silicon Valley overlords demand it? I doubt it’s Putin, because Russia’s economy is hanging on by a thread, and the last thing they need is a global downturn, especially when it craters oil prices. Is it just that Trump is stupid, maybe senile, and ultimately in charge?

Regardless, the leader of the biggest economy in the world has decided that it’s time for a global recession/depression, so unless that course is changed, that’s probably what’s going to happen.

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