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An overdue blog post about the finances and other news from the .world

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[–] nicoweio@lemmy.world 179 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm actually surprised how low the server costs are. Granted, the userbase is not that large, but it makes me optimistic that Lemmy.world survives long-time.

[–] Ryan213@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] rostby@lemmy.fmhy.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmy forever for a 1000 years

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[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Would have expected the asset hosting to be higher, given the number of images (both the original + the resized thumbnails etc)

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 118 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Legendary. Didn't realize the Lemmy world team was also running Mastodon and Firefish instances. Much love for your determined support!

[–] antik@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't forget our discord server!

[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If anybody would like a facebook group, feel free to let us know. We've also considered a friendly Minecraft server. Maybe a TikTok account.

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Official subreddit? Loljk

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy world only fans when? Post hot foss pics

[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I think you guys should join Bebo.

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Non profit foundation is awesome to see. It will probably the general structure of all significant long lasting institutions on the Fedi.

[–] drrlvn@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I might be out of the loop so I'm genuinely curious - what's wrong with Cloudflare?

The post mentions several times that it isn't popular and that an alternative will be found.

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's the fear of centralization, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong!).

Seeing that the whole point of federation is to decentralize the web, putting everything under the Cloudflare umbrella goes against this philosophy.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

The federation philosophy is not going to hold up when users centralize themselves on an instance, requiring that instance to seek out things like Cloudflare just to bare the weight.

[–] nicoweio@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe it's about Cloudflare becoming a single point of failure for large parts of the internet?

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] ymhr@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Iirc it can break federation

[–] godless@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The idea of a non-profit holding sounds great, but what about collateral damage if shit really hit the fan? Would it not be smarter to have a separate entity for each platform? They could all have essentially the same statutes, boards, directors etc. etc., so in case if one really got under heavy fire, the others wouldn't be affected? I know it means more admin work and probably also requires some governing policies with regards to the funding distribution, but might be cleaner in the end.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is absolutely the correct thing to do. Do not place all your eggs in one legal basket.

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[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Cheers for the numbers, always good to see transparency for income and expenses

[–] Lugh@futurology.today 26 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I wonder why Mastodon.world has done so comparatively poorly. I also wonder if Mastodon could be more integrated with Lemmy would that improve things. As awful as twitter is these days, the way it embeds so easily into other content, which lets you click straight to its comments is invaluable. No doubt its on Elon's list of things to ruin, and he'll get around to it eventually.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

mastodon.social dominates for one simple reason. The Mastodon gGmbH app now defaults to mastodon.social sign ups.

Selecting instances was confusing the shit out of people, so they relented and simplified the signup process.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What is gGmbH?

The gGmbH is a non-profit company with limited liability under German law. In German this is gemeinnützige Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung – gGmbH for short. Here 'non-profit' (gemeinnützig) means that the purpose of the company is to benefit the common good.

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[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I also wonder if Mastodon could be more integrated with Lemmy would that improve things.

This won't happen. The Lemmy dev does not want Mastodon to be integrated into Lemmy. They say that plenty of other fediverse software already has this implemented, and that Lemmy doesn't need to reinvent what other software does.

[–] Lugh@futurology.today 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

The Lemmy dev does not want Mastodon to be integrated into Lemmy.

Something tells me this isn't the last word on the issue. If the fediverse concept is to succeed, then its two (current) largest players need to have some cross-functionality.

Perhaps the fediverse will get big enough that third-party developers will step in to fix this. Twitter & Reddit both benefitted hugely from the extra functionality third-party developers enhanced both platforms with.

Its anathema to the whole concept of the fediverse that one person - a lemmy dev - gets to decide something so important.

[–] godless@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Something tells me this isn’t the last word on the issue. If the fediverse concept is to succeed, then its two (current) largest players need to have some cross-functionality.

I strongly disagree here. They might be using the same protocol, but the user expectations are something completely different. I've tried mastodon and really don't get the appeal, just like I never understood why people want something like Twitter. And I'm sure there are some Mastodon users out there who can't be bothered about Lemmy.

Forcing them into one common framework feels like alienating both to me.

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[–] sliels@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you want that you can check out Kbin. It's like Lemmy but also has a microblogging section that relatively flawlessly integrates mastodon content.

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[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

Y'all are wonderful. Thanks for your dedicated effort.

I also appreciated your shout-out to other instances that are active cooperating with .world to make Lemmy a better place. Teamwork makes the dream work.

[–] beefbaby182@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Thank you for all the work you guys do! Glad to see server expenses are coming in under budget of the donations!

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Great work! Although I'm far too busy with other stuff I'd love to be able to contribute some Terraform when and where I can. Maybe you could put some stuff in a public repo so we might contribute?

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The stuff in our repo is quite sensitive, so probably won't ever be public. If your interested in helping. Feel free to fill out a application. It's in the side bar on the home page. 😎

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alright I will. Just didn't want to commit to it and then ending up having zero time.

In my experience usually your sensitive stuff should be hidden in secrets so public repos usually shouldn't be too much of a hassle.

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[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Love it! I’m happy to keep supporting this endeavor and community.

So from one sysadmin to another great job! Keep it up and I can’t wait to see where this goes! 🍻

[–] MatchaLong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Keep up the good work!

[–] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Out of curiosity, why is Cloudflare so heavily despised? It sounds like the service works well?

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