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Summary

The Trump administration is continuing to seemingly do everything it can to avoid securing the safe return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, wrongly deported to El Salvador last month due to an “administrative error.”

A senior State Department official signed a declaration swearing Abrego Garcia is “detained pursuant to the sovereign, domestic authority of El Salvador.”

Trump posted a message that confirms the U.S. is essentially wiping its hands of anyone deported: “These barbarians are now in the sole custody of El Salvador…and their future is up to President B and his Government.”

The Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the Trump administration must take steps to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s return.

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[–] bluebuddha_@50501.chat 6 points 11 hours ago
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 158 points 1 day ago

Supreme Court: "That's weird. We said he didn't have to follow laws and gave him immunity from pretty much any consequences in defiance of the Constitution... And now he won't follow our rulings!"

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago

If Trump was a Democrat he'd be impeached and convicted by now.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 195 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Ok, NOW are we in enough of a constitutional crisis to start getting upset??? I really feel like this is the incident that needs to be the breaking point.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, you're still overreacting until they start gassing folks /s

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And even then as long as the first people they start gassing were accused of crimes at some point then you're good

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago

Not crimes, "terrorism." Crimes have to be proven in court, but terrorism can be denied due process, so it doesnt have to be proven, just "designated."

Protest at a Tesla dealer? Terrorism, no trial. Write a post encouraging people to protest? Terrorism, no trial. Complain about ignoring SCOTUS rulings? Terrorism, no trial. Registered Democrat? The Democratuc party has been declared a Terrorist organization for supporting protests, all Democrats are Terrorists, no trial.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's already happening...

(But hey I mean they were no angels right? /s)

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

You gotta wait until they start using zyklon on seraphim. And even then they were armed.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

At which point, people will be asking why nothing was done before that point

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 54 points 1 day ago

Mahmoud Khalil should've been the breaking point. Anyone didn't understand the urgency of the matter then is gonna reenact that one poem or be dragged screaming and kicking into reality.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mario Savio was speaking on terms of labor, but his "Bodies upon the gears speech" is extremely relevant, particularly the end.

There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels ... upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!

We have 5m people connected through protest. Arresting and deporting legal migrants is kiddnapping. Witholding international passports is violence. Skipping due process, kidnapping, and illegally imprisoning a US citizen, then refusing to fix it, is violence.

I physically cannot fight. I pass out simply standing or walking too long. Of course I have a kid to protect too. There are plenty of people who have little to no benefit to an armed resistance in force.

But we all have a part to play. They are not fighting fair, and nor should we. History has shown that guerilla resistance is absurdly effective against government lower. Ukraine. Syria. Iraq. Afghanistan, Vietnam.

Fascists are idiots, and inefficient. They are focused on the in group so much they make themselves vulnerable. We have technology that hasnt existed before. Chemists, 3d printers. Open Source software. It doesn't have to be guns blazing and explosives.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nope.
Rape, insurrection, treason and fraud aren't enough.
Why would laughing at SCOTUS be a tipping point?

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Also everyone laughs or sneers or grimaces at SCOTUS these days.

The only people who take it seriously are the professionals in law who have so much sunk cost they cannot break away

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Treason always comes first.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

We’re already broken

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s only fascism when it happens in Europe. Otherwise it’s sparkling authoritarianism.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

yes we hit that point 3 months ago.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

They're just getting started. It's going to get a lot worse.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Supreme Court needs to start ordering arrests for contempt then. Put the Fanta Facist in jail for a month. Let Vance take over for a bit, just to send a message.

Or start arresting cabinet members. Gotta do something if they violate your court orders. Or your courtroom means jack shit.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some how, people don't know this - the courts CAN enforce the law.

They don't even need executive law enforcement to do it. That is the worst most depressing part about all of this. Hell, the supreme court has its own marshalls completely independent of the US Marshalls.

The courts can deputize their own Marshalls as they need. They have this power on purpose. Neglecting to use that power means they are complicit. And that is far scarier to me.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They only need to go to the protests to find people willing to arrest Trump and his subordinates

[–] kerntucky@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's assuming the Supremes actually want to arrest trump. They're obviously complicit.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

That's my point, if they wanted to it'd be easy

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Didn't they rule recently that whatever the President does as an "official act" is by definition legal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Sure, but violating a court order from the Supreme Court is the check and balances the country was founded on. Regardless of rulings made in the past. The Supreme Court orders you to do something, you do it. If the executive won't comply then the executive needs to be removed by congress.

To bad no one seems to care about following the constitution and how this government was setup. Looks like America had a good run, we'll still be here, in some nasty shell of a country we once were.

The scary thing is, we got the biggest stick. So you just put the world's biggest stick in the hand of facists and people so greedy they don't give a fuck about anything except their bank account.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

checks and balances, more like cheques or balances

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wrong check, you guys would use "check" too since it means it like "to check on something"

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago

my bad, i used Swype type and didn't realize i misspelled the first one.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"To check" means "to hold back"

We put up sandbags to check the rising water levels.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago
[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago

This is the first practice run of many, leading up to the 2028 election. By the time we get there, they will have totally ignored so many SCOTUS rulings (and lower courts) that defying the 22nd amendment will be expected, and accepted.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

This is BAD.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't these assholes take a day off?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nope. The judge said "there are no weekends in my court. Irreparable harm is being done, and until you bring the man back every day you will come here and tell the American people what actions you have taken"

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which they failed to do yesterday.

The judge demanded daily status updates on 3 questions. The filing yesterday only responded to question #1*, and completely ignored #2 and 3.

*Additionally, the response to #1 only relayed publicly available information, when the judge specifically ordered an affidavit from someone with personal knowledge of the matter.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

I hope the justice enacts contempt of court, and deputizes people to make the arrests. Preferably, minorities who have a stake in seeing justice done.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Good for the judge. I didn't know he did that. Thanks