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[–] Sophocles@infosec.pub 5 points 5 hours ago

I've played a LOT of cod over the years, and I've seen it get slammed into the ground with hate from all directions at every release. In some cases it was deserved cough BO4 but I've gotten a lot of enjoyment and hours from a bunch of them. I think people get mad if the gameplay is different when they try something new, hence the hate for BO3, Infinite Warfare, Ghosts etc. but also get mad when it "feels like the same game" like Cold War and WWII, so it's a lose lose for them.

If I were to pick a favorite era though, I like the jetpack era: (BO3, IW, and AW) because they gambled and tried something new. It was hated at the time, but people are still online playing and enjoying BO3 and IW almost 10 years later.

I also really enjoy the true classics like COD 1 & 2. They were actually the first ones I played bc I had to sneak it past my mom by buying it at a yard sale when I was younger lol. They really capture that clunky early 2000s shooter vibe that I kinda miss

black ops 2 was def peak

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Peak:

Battlefield Bad Company

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

ww2 is not slop its actually the best cod game ever made (its the only one i have a positive k/d in)

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

MFs screaming "I was born in 1990"

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago

Nah brother, early 2000s people have this hierarchy too. Extinction and Exo zombies were kinda neat tho.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Advanced warfare got done dirty y'all cod mfers just don't have enough gamer cred to appreciate a true movement shooter

[–] yuri@pawb.social 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

playing advanced warfare at launch is legitimately in my top 10 best experiences i’ve had with multiplayer. SO MANY PEOPLE were trying to just play it like every other call of duty. but as more folks started experimenting with the new movement options, suddenly firefights would randomly turn into twitch-shooter gameplay with everyone bouncing all over the fucking place.

once metas started getting sorted it turned into that same sweaty slog that every other old multiplayer fps eventually becomes.

Same as early Overwatch when Bastion dominated the meta and a single Genji reflect could win a match.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

MW2 peak? Nah CoD4 was peak and everything onwards was a spiral

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

CoD4 - excellent campaign. MW2 - worse campaign, better multiplayer. Everything was downhill from there.

Admittedly didn't play Blops multiplayer because the campaign sucked imo. Too stuck on rails, not enough freedom to figure out attack strategies and don't call it Black Ops when you're going around blowing the shit out of everything! That's the opposite of a Black Op!

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

ive never liked mw2's multiplayer. just not sure how its supposed to be fun when all the maps are bad

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Agree. WaW and MW2 were decent follow-ups to CoD4 despite not quite measuring up. Blops and everything after was pure slop.

And it's all DoD-funded US military propaganda.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

not really related but did you know D&D is descended from actual government sponsored tactical wargames?

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

nah man Blops is peak for me, best zombies and multiplayer, plus a decent campaign that was a lil artsy without going crazy while keeping the cold war aesthetic

I'll give you DoD funded, although I think that started earlier, but boy is that ending in Blops with the American Navy appearing and the sun shining corny af, I'm glad the post-credits scene was about killing the president

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yeah truth be told, most American-published military FPS games are supported by the DoD in some capacity. Just like most Hollywood movies that feature US military hardware get support from the DoD. So it's not really a mark against the CoD series specifically, more the subgenre as a whole.

I think the reason blops doesn't feature so highly in my memory is because I'd already moved on from the series at that point. I think I was busy playing Reach or Ark or something by then. I do have friends the same age as I who would agree with you on it.

[–] waterproof@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait, MW2 and MWII are not the same ?

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

I’ve only played up to BLOPS2 but I think MWII is just the original game but with lootboxes and microtransactions

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago

CoD 2 was the last one I played, therefor it was peak.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Its so bizarre seeing this.

For me the chart goes:

Call of Duty (2003) - the first one, it had sprint and ADS. Also two primary weapons and a handgun slot.

Call of Duty 2 (2005) - the first one with regenerating health. This might also be where prone and the true two weapon limit was introduced (but I'm not sure).

...

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009) - At this point people are criticizing the game series for being propaganda for the military industrial complex, for bland mindless gameplay, for being generally bland and uninteresting as a piece of art, for cranking out the same game over and over again, and for spawning so many imitators that creativity was choked out of the AAA development space.

...

Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (2014) - the one with that actor in it. People were surprised that it actually changed up its gameplay by adding jetpacks.

From 2014 onwards: I have never heard of these games before. I was vaguely aware that they kept making COD games but never cared to read about them. I think one of them was 150 GB, which some people think was a conspiracy to fill up your hard drive so you couldn't play other games (considering how much a repack was able to reduce its size).

[–] philycheeze@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

At some point in the “slop” era they turned the multiplayer into a standalone thing also and the campaigns truly became second thought.

I haven’t played since Modern Warfare 2 or Black Ops one ish because of the exact reasons you listed though.

[–] sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I actually kinda liked Infinite Warfare as well, at least the single player campaign. It also tried something different (futuristic space scifi setting) and had John Snow as the villain. Underrated.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Last time I was in a cafe was ~2012 playing MW3, CS, and 2142. Seems like that was a good time to exit. Maybe one day games will exist again. I'd love to get back into some, but without clear and tangible ownership rights to what I purchase with no strings attached, I am not at all interested in any game. I expect all features and complete autonomy or I simply opt out completely and hope all the corporate pirates burn. I can only fix me, and talk about it to say this shit is not normal. It only exists because you allow and vote for it with your money. Things could be better.

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Hey no ok FUCK this, infinite warfare was peak fiction

BO:3 would've been really good if it's story wasn't a complete brain fuck about identity and sentience

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

No way have they made SIX black ops games. I feel like the second one only just came out a couple of years ago...

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

WaW for the Wii was peak.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] vivendi@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

3, never played III

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mostly salty because it was the start of the campaigns no longer being good, imo. I didn’t get hooked on the multiplayer the same way I did with the prior ones either

[–] yuri@pawb.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

i was still so hopeful, but then subsequent campaigns just started moving further and further into torture porn territory.

i tried to play BO3. iirc literally the first mission includes a scene wherein the player character is overpowered and gets their arms methodically ripped off. complete with PLENTY of horrible “i’m actively dying” screams and cries piped directly into your ears, while you watch a first person view of someone holding you to the ground and ostensibly killing you in the worst way they can think of.

i got sick to my stomach and uninstalled the game. i was actually enjoying the multiplayer prior to that experience. just fucking give the character robot arms, i don’t need a writer’s room to sell “traumatic” in order to care about a game.

like literally can you name a single COD protagonist? they’re faceless puppets that you only care about because you play as them. the forced trauma only serves to make me dislike the devs rather than give a shit about the character.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

like literally can you name a single COD protagonist?

Soap and Mason are it for me

[–] yuri@pawb.social 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

o fuck i do remember mason

i feel like you could argue the FIRST blops game is actually a spinoff series that they never returned to, and that the following sequels are just “regular COD games”. they made a lot of bold choices in both the single and multiplayer, and i don’t think we ever got back to that same level.

e: advanced warfare was biting titanfall, blops 3 was biting advanced warfare. i GUESS blops 2 was the most creative of the sequels, but even then battlefield 2142 came out 6 years prior with basically the exact schtick.

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[–] hoch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does everyone forget Big Red One :(

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Probably lack of exposure? Haven't seen it on Steam...

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cold War has a pretty decent campaign

[–] gnawmon@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

Cold War was pretty much great at everything; multiplayer was fun, zombies had new stuff but kept the old formula.

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bo2 maybe also peak and Bo3 slop? Nah dude

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Bo3 zombies good, modding good, bo3 SP/MP super trash

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

BO2 was definitely peak and BO3 was a worse version of AW

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago

Sorry but this is the truth

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