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Currently in France No OS is -€60 and with Fedora or Ubuntu it's -€30
Don't ask. Different markets, pricing irrelevant to actual costs
this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2025
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in brazil, we used to have a law forcing this to be a thing. back in the laptop days, it used to be reasonably common for people to buy one without with linux, and pirate windows later to save money. or because it was plain cheaper.
it turns out brazil fomented a big userbase for linux for a while there. free market my ass, microsoft is an oligopoly. if this ever gets widespread i'm pretty sure adoption will grow for the simple fact people will at least get to fucking try it. microsoft wouldnt take it kindly though.
Used to have? Not anymore?
i wanted to say we still do but im not sure. its been a while since i shopped for laptops.
Wouldn't be surprised if Bolsonaro had gotten pocketed a kickback from MS to quietly remove that law's teeth.
i checked the brazilian dell website and they offer ubuntu as a choice. i'm not sure if they are doing it by their own choice or by force of law though.
bolsonaro gutting this law wouldnt surprise me, but i don't see it as relevant enough (at least right now) for them to even bother glossing over this tbh.
This is only for Thinkpads which are offered as customized units and have a longer shipping time.
incorrect. currently sporting an ideapad pro that i bought directly from lenovo last year and it came without windows pre-installed.
Wow, I didn't realize the windows tax was that high. I thought the bulk OEM licensing was significantly cheaper than the retail price.
It's kind of absurd. When you buy a TV, the bloated adware at least helps lower the price. Imagine paying extra for it.
sssssshhhhhhhhhhh don't type this out loud
Why would it lower the price? Don't ads only exist to generate a bit of extra revenue?
Lower the price of the TV
It's HAPPENING!
Didn’t RTA. What distro?
Fedora or Ubuntu. But I'd say the important part is that they probably provide all necessary drivers.
Usually enabling Ubuntu’s third party / proprietary repo covers all necessary drivers.
I remember having lots of driver issues on fedora but that was like two decades ago. I’d imagine they have that sorted now.
Anyway this is good news. Grow the user base.
These seem to be the two most commonly supported distros by laptop manufacturers. Framework officially support these two distros, too (they have unofficial guides for a bunch of other distros though)