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US energy officials have found unexplained communication equipment inside some Chinese-made inverter devices.

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Reuters reported the presence of undocumented and “rogue” communication devices in a number of Chinese-made solar inverters. These could potentially introduce unregulated and undocumented remote communication channels to the inverters, by which an actor could remotely bypass the cybersecurity firewalls that utility companies use to prevent direct communication back to China.

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[–] con_fig@programming.dev 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not naming the manufacturers is very disappointing

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Not naming the manufacturers is very disappointing

It is. So I looked it up:

According to the info I found, Huawei battery systems, and concerning solar panel electricity invertors they mentioned Sungrow, Growatt, and SMA. Growatt has arranged a patch, they claim.

Many of these Chinese systems have little to none (security) updates.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

What makes you believe that those software issues from a month ago are in any way related to the undocumented communication hardware found now?

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 52 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ok, what are European vendors for inverters? I really want solar, but I would prefer local vendors.

[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago

Fronius is Austrian and there are a few others but none producing microinverters that I’m aware of. If you are doing an install with no shading issues during the day, regular inverters are preferable though since the costs are cheaper and there’s no DC-AC-DC loss if you include a battery backup.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Fronius, SMA, Victron.

The unfortunate bit is that apparently e.g. Huawei inverters are extremely reliable, whereas e.g. cheaper SMA models are not.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I wonder if an incentive to be well built and reliable ends up being the fact they are strategic assets that can be “called into service” for decades.

This is some conspiracy brain thinking, but… they did find secret communication devices…

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In case you're referring to the comment by HowRu68 above, I don't think that those software vulns are related to this issue at all.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yea that's the one I was referring too. If not then that's good

[–] Dequei@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

There are some for the mid to large scale, which this would affect. Less so for small scale like <<100 kWp.

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not as fun and exciting James Bond shit when a supply-chain attack happens too close to home, huh? At least it didn't explode in anyones faces.

[–] SquiffSquiff 7 points 3 days ago

Or pockets...

[–] Hotznplotzn 42 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Spain reconsiders possibility of hackers causing blackouts

The possibility of the blackouts being caused by a cyberattack was immediately considered, though the grid operators in Spain and Portugal both said at the time there was no evidence of hacking, a point that was echoed by authorities and politicians.

Now, reports suggest Spanish authorities are investigating whether smaller power generators were a weak link that was exploited by cyber criminals to target the electricity grid, according to the Financial Times ...

[The original FT article is behind a paywall.]

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It doesnt have to be a "cyberattack" for it to be the fault of chinese inverters. There have been plenty of cases of faulty automatic firmware updates bricking all online inverters of a brand at the same time. Thats why you always cut those things off from the internet and set up your own monitoring.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

[The original FT article is behind a paywall.]

The archived version, however, is not

https://archive.ph/In5qU

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] calavera@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

China has been doing this in a lot of hardware. It’s a huge national security risk to not screen inbound hardware for problems, but doesn’t really happen because that would be a monumental task.

Hell, look at what Israel did with those pagers. It’s crazy to think that other nations haven’t been putting malicious packages in their electronics as well.

[–] timeghost@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine what all they are cramming into their EVs.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Like yeah its concerning no doubt, but imagining whatbthey ae doing without evidence while the main competition and market leader is a fascist cunt who disables functionality just before impact to shed blame and doctors mileage reports.

They get away with it because we are not better, if the competition was better they would have to meet them where they are.