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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/64140227

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We were afraid of mind reading tech when we should have been afraid of polygraph 2.0: pseudoscience garbage used to manufacture evidence for the state.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What’s a polygraph? They hook up a bunch of sensors to you to check your breathing rate, pulse, how much you’re sweating, etc and claim to be able to read from the output whether or not you’re lying. They can’t, and it’s been inadmissible as evidence in court in the US (and AFAIK most other places) for decades.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The nonsense system they’re talking about in the OP article that’s supposed to read your mind and tell whether or not you’ve experienced taking part in the crime they’re describing when they question you.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

wait what did you mean by "We were afraid of mind reading tech when we should have been afraid of polygraph 2.0" then

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn’t read your mind. It gives output, that’s not the same thing as mind reading any more than the polygraph was lie detection. The real threat was and always has been cops and the state.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

when were we afraid of it besides being afraid of it for being polygraph 2.0

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

I was talking about the historical presence in sci fi and pop culture of fear of mind reading machines in general, as opposed to this specific one. But I mean, do you think cities are spending tens of thousands of dollars because they don’t think it works like that? They at least believe they can convince people that it reads minds.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People really just got annoyed about you missing the context of a comment (science fiction and cultural depictions of the future) and asking clarifying questions until you got it.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 1 month ago

time to get annoyed about somebody’s addiction to idioms!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

science fictiun has been warning about a surveillance state that becomes so pervasive it penetrates your thoughts for decades. but we never really wrote any speculative fiction about the state planting evidence of thoughts on you

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This feels way to close to DNA evidence. Everyone assumed it was foolproof even when it wasn't

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. At least DNA evidence is based on some science where this is "reading minds". Do you seriously compare thee two?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They both have the potential to be trusted yo the point of convicting innocent people

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

One of them has the potential to prove someones innocence...