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Israeli forces kill Palestinian boy who witnessed Rafah medics massacre (www.middleeasteye.net)

submitted 2 weeks ago by shish_mish@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I live in Ukraine and we have our own massive problems to deal with (that take up an enormous amount of mental energy), but it pains me to see the mass killings in Gaza.

I am increasingly finding it difficult to see how the Israeli colonial regime is any better than the russians (putin is a mere symptom of the broad support for genocidal imperialism in russian society).

P.S. I will add it's annoying (in a base, reflexive sense) to see this from MiddleEastEye, they are huge supporters of russian imperialism.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I am increasingly finding it difficult to see how the Israeli colonial regime is any better than the russians (putin is a mere symptom of the broad support for genocidal imperialism in russian society)

It's not. The only reason Ukraine isn't like Gaza is that Ukraine has an army to protect it, and if Ukraine didn't have an army to protect it it'd be like Gaza. Russia and Israel are similar to a frankly kind of ridiculous degree.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Russia and Israel are similar to a frankly kind of ridiculous degree

It's not so much that they are like each other, they are both proponents of a new sort of unforgiving, relentless warfare. For decades, we have been trying to fight wars with Rules, but the old saying "All's fair in Love and War" has returned with a vengeance.

America has wasted trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, fighting wars by the Rules, with little to show for it, so it makes sense that new, more successful, methods of warfare would eventually emerge. When America's next war starts, expect that we will be committing the same sorts of atrocities.

[–] drawMeaMutton@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 week ago

They do like each other wtf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations

[+] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But there are some important differences.

Israel is still a democracy. A flawed and increasingly failing democracy, but they are not (yet?) on the level of russia. Which for me makes their behaviour more puzzling.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, democracies can commit all manners of atrocities too. Russia was a democracy when they invaded Chechnya if you remember that, and then you have all of Britain and France's wonderful escapades in Africa and the Middle East and America's wars over the past 70 years. Also I want to note that Israel has been like this since the very beginning.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's a good point. I guess I just wish there was more pushback within the Israel (there is some, but I get the impression it's a tiny tiny minority).

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Israel had a slight shift towards a more reasonable approach at some point, but then Yitzhak Rabin got murdered by an extremist linked to the Likud and it went back downhill from there.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

The US was a democracy when it fabricated evidence for an invasion of Iraq which is estimated to have killed 4 million people.

Democracy at home, tyrant abroad.

Being a democracy is no protection against committing war crimes.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 weeks ago

They aren't any different in what they are doing, they are different in size and scale.

[–] drawMeaMutton@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 week ago

Huuh you know russia and israel are allies from the start, yes? Netanyahu and Putin always have been closed. The guns and bombs the west send to israel? Some of them ended up in russia. Don't be naive. You are a pawn in a chessgame and all the player want is to sell more guns.

[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Middle East Eye is based in London and even the pro Israeli MBFC rates it as highly credible and mostly factual. What the heck are you on about?

The accusations against MEE come from Saudi Arabia and the UAE who don't like people talking about their atrocities in English languaged media, especially as they try to influence the Muslim communities in Western countries like the UK with funding for Salafism and the like.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The contrast between their coverage of Gaza and their embrace of russian imperialism (with the typical "I oppose the invasion but ... NATO, Nazis, bla bla) makes it difficult for me to take them seriously.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 weeks ago

It takes a special kind of monsters to target and kill a child. I wish every IOF soldier the cruelest end.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dead children witness no war crimes.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

Dead babies tell no tales

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 weeks ago

B-b-but did the 12yo condemn Hamas?!?

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck Israel. Fuck Russia.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

And America.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

They had to finish the job, those bastards.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This too shall pass and when it does, I fully expect those responsible to be arrested, tried, and locked up forever. That includes the monster netanyahu.l, but also the soldiers in the ground pulling those triggers

[–] drawMeaMutton@endlesstalk.org 2 points 1 week ago

And the people in the west who send weapons and bombs, the medias and politicians who supported this shit. Send them to jail