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I trust The Economist magazine for thoughtful analysis and [...]

i-cant "Lmao okay I guess not then."

Or they'll be discussing politics and history with an (otherwise) interesting guest when the subject broaches Marxism, and you hear the same old, first-grader, thought-terminating misconceptions about "human nature" or "works in theory". agony-acid

bruh-moment

Edit: One guy remarked that the Nazis were a result of the October Revolution, which may be technically accurate because some White Russians worked with the Nazis, but he was definitely framing it in a "communism did WWII" way.

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[โ€“] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, I trust The Economist to have thoughtful analysis from the perspective of the international capitalist class with uncrossable ideological boundaries providing the framing.

I don't often need a reminder of "how these people think" but sometimes I do, like when the administrative state of the US is undergoing a proscribed burn that seems to be getting out of hand. The Economist is probably one of the more salient examples of capitalist logic... the steady hand and voice on the wheel of slave ship that is compartmentalizing leaks by insisting more and more of the workers keeping it afloat must be confined to quarters below and silently drown with honor, dignity and civility.

[โ€“] Civility@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

๐Ÿ˜Œ

[โ€“] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't it written by 19-year-olds?

[โ€“] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

so are my posts but i could probably give a pretty good summary of the war in sudan if i felt like it smh

[โ€“] Dessa@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I wouldn't mind hearing that summary

[โ€“] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough. I guess that's not a reason to dislike them.

[โ€“] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i think of them, the "writers", more like monkeys banging on keyboards while Baron Paul Deighton and others on their group boards playing the Mr. Burns role when the monkeys' narratives are too incomprehensibly out of pocket.

[โ€“] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[โ€“] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I assume that every YouTuber is a completely incoherent libertarian until directly proven otherwise.

[โ€“] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's a good heuristic.

[โ€“] kaprap@leminal.space 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How often were you right than wrong?

[โ€“] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm batting well above .900

[โ€“] Llituro@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

being a subject matter expert is extremely different from achieving enlightenment.

[โ€“] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is fine as long as they're not arrogant.

[โ€“] context@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

the whole system is built around telling people they're extra special smart little kiddos for knowing the right and correctly true answer, and that's why they deserve petty boug incomes and consumer habits. it's baked in.

[โ€“] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean I think there's a lot of merit to say the Nazis were a result of the October Revolution. Historians like Enzo Traverso and Domenico Losurdo would argue that WWI and WWII are part of the same thirty years war, and that the fascists were the direct result of the communist challenge to capitalist supremacy. There was no other method aside from fascism to restore the Capital order in a place like Italy.

[โ€“] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

if you want to you could argue that like 1850-1950 was a hundred years of labor conflict bubbling up to these wars which were a result of capitalist and imperialist forces with the influence of "communism" really just representing the rising education and class awareness of the proletariat as well as an increasing ability to threaten order through better organization and coordination

anyway it's almost like the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles

[โ€“] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh most definitely, I just think it's wrong to blame communism for the atrocities done in reaction to it. That was the subtext I was offended by.

[โ€“] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Ah got it, agreed.

[โ€“] Sebrof@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

As someone in STEM, I can say, we suck

[โ€“] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Add every victim of WW2 to the communist death count