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Get it used. He gets no money that way.
In most cases, it's wrong to violate the social contract, especially while benefiting from it. However: the harm done by violating the social contract should be weighed against the harm of not violating it.
In this case, the harm of violating the social contract is pretty minimal, as copyright law is not a fundamental part of the fabric of society. One can even argue it's kind of dubious, as something that moneyed interests favor very heavily with no similar moneyed interests favoring a strong public domain.
The harm of not violating it is not only do you give money to a holocaust denier, you're giving it to him for denying the holocaust. Even worse, you're giving him money for being wrong, and so effective at deception that you are compelled to spend money disproving him.
The whole point of copyright is to encourage useful works and spreading of knowledge and art. In this case the work is not spreading knowledge, but un-knowledge. Irving is exploiting a loophole in copyright law that allows him to work against its very purpose.
Thus I'd say violating the law is ethical as the benefits far outweigh the costs.
If you're just worried about the law, steal it from somewhere in Austria. That dumbass did prison time in Vienna for his holocost denial, so maybe they seized all proceeds and profits and all that shit.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Just live your life
Anyone with enough money to influence society already has enough money to influence society. Given them another $3 doesn't make you complicit
If they have problematic views but aren't pushing them on society... Well, no one is perfect.
Ultimately, voting with your wallet is a lie. Best sellers aren't the best books, they're the ones boosted by publishers and public figures. Just like the record industry - there's people who are literally choosing the winners and losers
What's the ultimate ethical implication of using ketchup at McDonald's vs buying a dipping sauce? There certainly is one, tiny as it might be. Use that energy to do good things, you'll make a far greater difference calling a senator than buying a lifetime of books
Or just sidestep it all and pirate it or check it out at a library
“Everything sucks so do nothing” is exactly how evil stays in power.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying live your life and save your energy for where it would actually make a difference
Collective action works, voting with your wallet is a way to make people think they don't need to organize
Well my attitude is
You can do that...I mean consuming less is great
But only one of these things meaningfully helps fix systematic problems, but they both make you feel like you're doing something meaningful
I bought a book about communism yesterday off of Amazon.
Cool? That sounded like it was meant as a rebuttal, but that's my whole argument.
You can't live a truly moral life under capitalism, but you can fight to change the system while living in the system. There's no hypocracy in that, suggesting otherwise is just a mid-wit talking point
Now, if we got together and organized a boycott against Amazon and you broke it, that would be a different story
Threw out Gaiman's books , needs to be purged from history ( except Good Omens of course, because of Pratchett)
Huh? What did he do?
Rape women.
Lots of sexual assault allegations. I wasn't a fan even before all of that came out so I didn't follow it too closely.
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Do you have to agree with everyone you give your money to? What sort of economy would that be?
Buy the book on the premise that you want access to the content he spent energy and time to produce. Just like you’d pay to get access to any kind of content that you want to consume because it is the fair thing to do.
Or get it at the library like everyone else said.
Pirating it is not ethical of course, but furthermore it becomes hypocritical and intellectually dishonest if you would criticize some else for pirating content produced by any other author.
I do try. I actively boycott shitty companies (for 30 years and counting) and my list is long and swollen.
If more people took action on their principles our systems would be a lot less shitty.
Just because you can’t boycott everything doesn’t mean you should do nothing.
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