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[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

Tbh it probably does suck to live somewhere like Cuba whose economy has been strangled by blockades, but it's a "stop hitting yourself" sort of logic to blame it on communism.

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[-] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago
[-] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Do you have the link to this video?

[-] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://altcensored.com/watch?v=cg-OZl5G8o8

Also I forgot about the last line of this video "your family may have suffered under communism, my job is to make sure you suffer under communism" stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2

[-] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks! What is this altcensored page? Is it for videos censored by YouTube?

Edit: That last line is epic 😂

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[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everyone please, stop scratching the liberals. We can't handle any more fascists

Whispering in ear

Wait, really?

Whispering in ear

The whole time?

[-] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"The European Union? Good heavens!"

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

Whispering in ear

The ENTIRE western world?! 😰

[-] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think state instruments of power will make mistakes and cause undue harm if they exist, and yet we need them to exist to fight a literal war with the most powerful military force in human history, by several orders of magnitude. I think there are genuine issues that arise there. I just don’t think the vast majority of people raising concerns about the harms of communism are worried about the specific errors that have actually occurred and were unforced. They’re too busy repeating talking points about how cruel Castro was to the slave owners.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

The solution is clearly to have a first revolution which establishes a socialist state and then a second revolution after the capitalist states have all been defeated. (I am only half-joking)

[-] DADDYCHILL@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

while i personally despise trotsky because his adventurism regarding his views on permanent revolution endangered the soviet union and communism as a whole, the concept itself is valid. the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time after all, even if that quote specifically was made by a chud the sentiment is real. without the occasional violence in society to shake up the class structure, hereditary power and corruption will entrench itself into an utopian classless system given enough time and that endangers the project of communism as a whole, so we need purges, not reeducation, murder, the death penalty carried out on reactionaries basically until the end of time to maintain communism. communism is not pacifism, humans are innately violent and a utopian system would require it.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

This is a ridiculous take. A classless system does not endanger communism, it is communism. Reactionaries are not timeless, they are explicitly contextual. Humans are not innately violent, physics is. Violence is useful in accumulation due to scarcity and social structures. Getting to classlessness and moving beyond scarcity will create incentive conditions that make violence less and less viable as a means to accumulation until ultimately everyone will be fully enmeshed in interests that align with peace over war.

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[-] JeffBozo@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Maybe your family should have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and choose not to suffer under communism then.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

No my family should be allowed to own serfs, plantations and call on the police to disappear any local who looks at the pater familia wrong

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

My prefered counter is "my family suffered under capitalism"

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago
[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago
[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

The Bolsheviks shot and bayonetted my entire family in a basement in 1918

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

lord-bezos-amused is a gusano.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This isn’t very accurate. Plenty of people suffer under communism, or at least nominally communist governments. I mean, are we gonna pretend post-Stalin leadership was good? Or citizen sin AES that have to allow free market policies in their countries to survive are 100% happy?

[-] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago

I can guarantee you that the average Chinese citizen is happier than the average American.

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[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

The leadership post Stalin was definitely incompetent, but the people thrived

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago
[-] raven@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Half the time the "suffering" is just being demoted from being a landlord to being normal and having to get a job.

[-] gregheffley@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I love how a fate worse than death for most reactionaries is just becoming a Joe/Jane Shmoe

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

My peepaw deserved that egg monopoly because he told me

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