The US right are snake people and should be shunned
this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2025
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Like they negotiated with China. Oh wait, they hate the EU more than China? Then they do have a problem :)
It was China which showed them they are not impressed by their intimidation school yard bully tactics.
The "problem" is also made up in the first place. There is no deficit if you look at Services and Trades between the US and EU. Just looking at Trade is intellectually dishonest. And it's a shame that our press isn't mentioning this more. The EU does in their officiall Comms
The only problem with Europe is that we don't have our own social media (and some services like Microsoft), so to play hardball with tariffing the big tech companies, it would involve some risk that everybody would be forced to spend a few Summer months outdoors touching grass and playing sports in the Sun...and that...that would be unforgivable...
We have SUSE Enterprise Linux, we have Collabora Office, we have Matrix, we have Nextcloud, we have OnlyOffice, we have Nextcloud, we have OVH,Scaleway,StackIT etc...
We could lower our dependence drastically if we wanted. But right now, we don't, even not in our government
This is true, but I think you missed the point.
I did. The sarcasm went completely beyond me.
But good point, I guess don't having asocial media and sticky apps would already be a drastic economic boom and productivity increase on its own
Yeah, the Microflaccid and Google stuff we could probably replace, but it probably would require extra people on call to fix bugs and do maintenance to make up for the lost corporate tech support...
Lost corporate support?
You can buy support for all of these products, and those extra people would probably employed here
Ok, makes sense, I'm not aware of the free software enterprise-tier stuff.
Here's the deal, we tax your shitty privacy imposing services 200%, and you do whatever the fuck you want.
Then we see how that works for you, losing the most profitable business you have, to gain absolutely nothing!
USA you are not in a very good position, you have allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, you do not have the cards right now, with us you start having cards, right now you are playing cards, you are gambling with world war 3, and what you are doing is very disrespectful, Have you said thank you once? In the 80 years we have allowed and supported USA to have international leadership, have you said thank you once? You went to Poland and Hungary to campaign for the opposition! Your country is in big trouble. You are not winning. But you have a damned good chance of coming out OK because of us. We've been buying you military equipment, and helped you finance your military industrial complex, It's gonna be a very hard thing to do business like this. Stop fighting it out in the media when we know you are wrong. We KNOW you are wrong. But you see I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on. I think it's very important, that's why I kept this going on so long. But you have to be thankful. You don't have the cards, you have buried there, you have people dying, You are running low on soldiers, it would be a damned good th, then you tell me: I don't want a cease fire, I don't want a cease fire, I wanna go, I wanna this, look! If you can get a cease fire, I tell you, you take it, so we can stop the bullets flying, and your men stop getting killed. You say you don't want a cease fire, I want a cease fire, because you can get a cease fire faster than an agreement...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCFMEoRCmEY
Yes, I don't think a deal with that guy is worth much, he made a deal with Canada, and then said it's a bad deal made by a moron, and then broke every part of the deal.
Piss off USA, if you want to play little silly games, do it with someone else.
They just don't have the cards
One thing that pissed me off too from revisiting that "debate", was when JD Vance complained that Zelenskyy campaigned for the opposition, which is a lie. But the US administration is actively campaigning in EU in Poland and Hungary for MAGA and recommending Europeans vote extreme right. Musk did it too in Germany. This is completely unheard of interference among democracies.
Might have changed the outcome in Poland even, hope this interference will be taken serious.
I'm going to assume that it'll be somewhere in the range of 'strongarming'. With China, the government was afraid of a direct conflict. With most of Europe, I'm willing to guess that they don't have those same fears, so it will be very interesting.
The Right loathes everything. Breakers not creators!