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[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can't argue with that!

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same. I have a 1080ti my pal gave me.....but it's overclocked to all fuck, and I can't afford to build a custom water-cooling loop to upgrade from the 1060.....we'll....I COULD afford it, but there's other stuff that's more importanter

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't you underclock it using MSI afterburner, so it'll run cooler?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sure! But my buddy had thrown away the stock cooling system and just gave me the card with the custom water block on it......

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe buy a broken one that has working fans and then yank the cooling.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That sounds an awful lot like work

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Less work than setting up a water block solution lol

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, but then it's also not as big a performance jump from what I have. I'm strategically lazy....

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, even underclocking it won't make it run that cool. Sounds like a radiator & pump and tubing might be cheaper than buying a dead card and cannibalizing.

Or you could always try to sell it and get a newer card

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, just a whole lot of expenses going out right now. So even £150-200 is off the books for me atm

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

I have a 2070 non-super just sitting around, PM me and perhaps I can sell it to you.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

curious to see how this ends up being. it looks like they tried to ramp up the whimsical in a game that's mostly somber, which seems weird and disjointed. and good luck beating DRG in the whimsical dept

i hope it does well. huge control fan

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I would not describe Control as mostly somber.

Things about it that are somber / serious:

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  • The formality of a government agency
  • The overarching plot about Dylan and the quest about your home town
  • The hiss
  • The board
  • Trench

Things about it that are whimsical:

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  • Philip
  • Ahti
  • All of the documents and writing you find
  • Dr. Casper Darling
  • The mould
  • Dr Underhill
  • Jesse's cool quippy demeanour when she gets through something or learns a new thing
  • The Maze
  • The music video tunnel
  • All of the posters and announcements
  • All of the generic FBC NPCs.
  • Emily
  • The former

Things about it that are both:

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  • Northmoor

I have complete faith in Remedy, both of the Alan Wakes and Control have been surprisingly funny and whimsical, often in unexpected ways. Quantum Break had less humour and was a bit more self serious, but Microsoft also had more control of that project.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

COME JOIN THE THRESHOLD KIDS

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Absolute best part of the game are all the live action films you find. Especially the puppets.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

That's nice to hear. Alan Wake 2 was a great game and gorgeous, but even after upgrading my gpu, it was a pain trying to get it to run even sort of smoothly. A bit over ambitous, methinks.

Control, otoh, ran great when it came out and still runs great, all while looking great as well. Going back to whatever strategy worked their seems like a good idea.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Apparently the steam deck graphics capabilities are about equivalent to a GTX 1050 TI, so curious if this will run on deck OK or not.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

Bit late, but in theory, it should work just fine, even at 60 fps, given that the Steam Deck's display resolution is only about half of 1080p.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Considering the Steam Deck's screen is 1280x800, I think it might be ok.

[–] SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, that’s not bad! Now, that is with quality upscaling, so not at native 1080p. And on low settings, which we’re yet to see how that looks.

But yeah, compared to most of the industry (even themselves with AW2), this is a pleasant surprise! It makes me more open to trying it, since I find shooters on kbm to benefit greatly from higher framerates.

Anyways, I’m not expecting call of duty or cs2 framerates. Lower quality options in those games tend to look pretty presentable, and framerates can get past 120 fps depending on the rig and settings. This game isn’t PvP, though, and I think this middle ground between performance and quality is a great fit for PvE. Helldivers II is where my mind goes (except this game will have half-competent upscaling).

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somewhere above 720p upscaled to 1080p with the help of FSR should work for 60 fps. The lower render resolution is likely enough to compensate for the lack of VRAM. This is all theoretical, of course.

How's your CPU situation?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

Ryzen 5 3600. Not the 3600X but the 3600.

[–] who@feddit.org -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's supposed to be very friendly? I think someone might be a bit out of touch.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

*Relative to what we're seeing out of the Triple Ehh space.

[–] Warehouse@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To run 1080p60 you need a 9-year-old GPU paired with a 8-year-old CPU.

What performance were you hoping to get out of that hardware?

[–] who@feddit.org -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
  1. The GTX 1070 was in the upper tier of gaming GPUs when it was released, categorized as high-end on Wikipedia. Most people wouldn't be able to justify the cost of its kind of performance until years later, even if the next thing didn't happen...
  2. About half that long ago, GPU prices tripled, and prices are still absurdly elevated today even adjusting for high inflation. This has significantly delayed a lot of peoples' normal upgrade cycles, so your 9-year-old GPU is effectively more like a 4-year-old GPU with respect to affordable upgrade path.
  3. Back when that card was new, running a first-person game at 60fps 1080p was mainstream and not particularly impressive. That level of performance is mediocre-to-weak today.

(And by the way, the other GPU they mention is only 5 years old.)

With all these things considered, I don't view the quoted performance as anything special. It's not particularly bad, but not particularly good either. Certainly not "very friendly", or newsworthy.

[–] Warehouse@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The GTX 1070 was in the upper tier of gaming GPUs when it was released, categorized as high-end on Wikipedia. Most people wouldn’t be able to justify the cost of its kind of performance until years later, even if the next thing didn’t happen…

It's still 9 years old.

About half that long ago, GPU prices tripled, and prices are still absurdly elevated today even adjusting for high inflation. This has significantly delayed a lot of peoples’ normal upgrade cycles, so your 9-year-old GPU is effectively more like a 4-year-old GPU with respect to affordable upgrade path.

a) This isn't Remedy's fault.
b) The card is still 9 years old.
c) You can still play the game with a 9 year old GPU

Back when that card was new, running a first-person game at 60fps 1080p was mainstream and not particularly impressive. That level of performance is mediocre-to-weak today

That wasn't my experience in 2016 when I was rocking an HD 7850, and getting less than 60fps at 1080p for FPS's in 2016, a card that would have only been 4 years old at the time (and technically worse than what was in the PS4).

(And by the way, the other GPU they mention is only 5 years old.)

And about 15 percent more performant than the GTX 1070. With an MSRP about $100 less than it, and it being considered midrange.

Also, none of that really answers my question: What performance were you hoping that this GPU + CPU combo would give you?