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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 290 points 1 week ago (4 children)

“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 115 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who, Trump the thirty-two times felon?

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never met the guy. We're talking the 34 felony convicted man.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, right, 34 felonies. So far.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 week ago

34 convicted felonies so far

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don’t forget rapist. Probably liked them young, like his buddy Epstein.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

allegedly he asked epstein for a 13 year old that looked like his daughter.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

And heres a lives of the rich and famous type show where ivanka shows us her childhood bedroom. Watch her face after she shows her bed, right near the end. She looks like she's about to fall apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsxHBS89Lw

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 217 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It has begun. Trump unleashing the army against the population fighting against his gestapo.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 83 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am very fearful that many protesters will be murdered in the coming days.

And things will deteriorate quickly

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I expect them to switch to live ammo within the month

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think days, weeks if we're lucky

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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 66 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said in a post on X that the Defense Department is "mobilizing the National Guard IMMEDIATELY to support federal law enforcement in Los Angeles. And, if violence continues, active duty Marines at Camp Pendleton will also be mobilized — they are on high alert." ~ABC News

They are already threatening to send in Marines...

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They've been jerking themselves off to deploying the military against California for decades. This is their fantasy come true and they can hardly wait.

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[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 155 points 1 week ago (32 children)

I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.

Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 143 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Funny how he doesn't hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn't do shit.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 132 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that's not going to solve this. It's just going to start a true resistance.

There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that's when they kill them.

All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 week ago

I hope a true resistance is born of this. We need to band together and rise up!

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Agreed. If protestor blood is spilled, it will foment a resistance that will build.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

It's not a fucking immigration protest. They didn't deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.

[–] HorseTesselator@midwest.social 103 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Maybe a bit of a hot take, but I think Trump is also doing this at least partly to distract from his spat with Musk's Epstein implications. Not to mention Trump's upcoming parade. Also, keep in mind that 2,000 Nat'l guard troops is surprisingly low, especially for an area the size of L.A. In '92 they brought in almost 10,000.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about this, too, but personally I believe people need to keep their cool, here. I'm seeing a lot of doom spiraling and panicking all over the place online and we need to be mindful of how this affects us mentally and emotionally.

We're in the long game.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is basically my take as well, Californian cities are fucking massive and 2,000 people in LA especially is barely a drop in the bucket. Also these are National guardsmen who may very well be pissed they are being sent to stand around outside in LA during the summer, the concrete and blacktop does not let go of heat easily.

Edit: Bucket not bugget, my auto correct is on bath salts.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Also, a number of them will agree with protesters.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

And there's another factor, out of any militarized element in the US the national guard have the potential to be the least threatening. They were affected by the post Vietnam reforms just like the rest of the branches, especially after Kent state. Fact of the matter is the guardsmen are far more likely to take issue with ICE and the police in general, reminder that quite a few came forward after the BLM protests saying they wanted to defend the protestors from the police.

Mind you that doesn't eliminate risks involved but it does mean that there is far far more potential for this to utterly backfire in Trump's face.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 76 points 1 week ago

You mean the Man who Deployed Secret Police in his FIRST TERM is Deploying the National Guard in his SECOND TERM? I did NAZI This coming!

[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

If you don't own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

Sooo, there’s that.

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[–] damdy@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight... except it's not even a knife fight it's a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump's only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (9 children)

This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we'll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi's trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

By next summer it will get really ugly, and he'll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There is a good reason not to follow unconstitutional orders.

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[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 58 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's starting!!! The downfall of democracy, we had a good run!

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Or its revival. This might become the spark that turns these protests into a revolution.

A new Boston massacre may be in our future

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 56 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Oh, that happened the instant the SCOTUS declared the president above the law and Biden didn't say "fuck you, idiots", fire all the justices who ruled in favor of that decision at gunpoint, appoint all new justices in their place, and then declare that ruling void by fiat. If you're about to say "the president can't do that", the SCOTUS declared the president above the law, he actually can.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we had a good run!

I'd rank it as 'just OK' compared to how the rest of the western developed world is doing and how many resources and advantages we had from the start. We can do much better next time. I think in the upcoming defederation we are not only going to let the south secede, we will insist on it. Godspeed to texas, florida, and the south.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I'm not actually surprised that the second american civil war starts in California. Cali always seemed like the most progressive state.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've been salivating for an opportunity like this. I bet they thought it would have happened already

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn't want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Repeat after me: A government that is bluntly sending weapon to bomb kids have no concern of it is own citizen.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Distraction or not, Trump is a coward who thinks deploying soldiers at a protest will make him look tough. It doesn't. It makes him look scared and pathetic.

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many fakes are in the crowd manipulating the situation for the oppositions political gain?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 28 points 1 week ago

“purposefully inflammatory”

Uh... this goes a bit beyond "inflammatory" chief.

Bass said in a statement Saturday night. “Everyone has the right to peacefully protest, but let me be clear: violence and destruction are unacceptable, and those responsible will be held accountable.”

Well at least he got the stuff about feckless Democrats right.

Police on Friday night issued a citywide tactical alert nearly two hours after declaring protests across the downtown area unlawful assemblies. “The use of less lethal munitions has been authorized by the Incident Commander,”

I mean ACAB so this isn't new, but still holy authoritarianism batman.

Newsom said in a statement responding to Huerta’s arrest, describing the union president as a “respected leader, a patriot and an advocate for working people.”

I'd like that sentiment to carry over to, you know, actual policy, but I guess he's not folding like a lawn chair yet.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Yeah, this is fucking depressing. Anyone wanna fight about Linux distros?

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