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I said what I said
Also I'm high
one of the times where "let people enjoy things" is valid
using it to kill discussion of [thing] because [thing] has become part of your identity, bad
using it because you are minding your own business trying to do [thing] and someone is being obnoxious, good
Reminds me of how fucking weird some people get about it if an adult reads YA books
Like yeah they're for teenagers, I don't read them myself, and I'm going to roll my eyes at anyone who insists they're every bit as deep and meaningful as books written for adults, and you deserve nothing but mockery if they're the lens through which you understand real-life politics, but the way some people talk about it, you'd think a YA book murdered their dog
Listen you might not like the comic but "let people enjoy things" is much less unpleasant sounding than "don't yuck someone's yum" because saying that phrase makes me feel a visceral disgust as it slides out of my throat like a thick ooze
The sports fandom really can be toxic and overbearing. As much as I love some sports, the way it was always expected for me to give a shit about the local football or baseball team was obnoxious. Not to mention the excessive doting on sports, to the point that schools will slash their arts department and lay off teachers so the middling football team there can get more concessions.
anyone whos ever said “sportsball” in earnest is a loser
Death to America
I hate sports, but yeah sportsball as a term is exactly the sort of faux-clever lib shit you see when people are talking about Trump as Cheeto Hitler or whatever
Death to America
sports haters are incredibly annoying and childish. critiques of how athletes are treated and the culture around sports are valid but "haha sporbsball amirite" makes me think you're never interacted with someone outside of the internet
Hard disagree on this one. In a vacuum, sports is a hobby like any other, and it's fine, if not my particular cup of tea.
But in practice, it holds a unique position of cultural hegemony, perhaps especially in America, in such a way that it is inextricably bound up with gender, patriarchy, race, labor and capitalism. I personally hate sports because people assume things about me based on what they think my gender is, and use it to police my gender.
I have no problem with people enjoying sports. What i have a problem with is people having a problem with me not enjoying sports.
Growing up i was always asked about sports and expected to care about them, enjoy watching them, and have something to say about them. My not caring was an unwelcome deviation from what people expected then, sometimes that necesitated an excuse for why it was okay and i always hated.
I hope its not like that for people growing up today, and we're all just letting people enjoy things. As a kid the things i enjoyed weren't okay and it wasn't okay that i didn't enjoy sports.
Big fucking mood
Queer coded bad guy, speaking of sports and society enforcing gender norms
Not even "coded" really, overtly homophobic I would say
People forget the whole "sportsball" meme came about in the first place because before the widespread adoption of nerd culture in the 2010s sports was inescapable and forced on everyone. It's hilarious that sports fans act like victims when they get any light mocking or pushback to their total cultural hegemony and imposition on everyone else. If you were a man and didn't like sports you were mocked as gay (which was seen as socially damaging).
Let people not enjoy things
Fairly obvious that a lot of people's resentment towards sports comes from simply not being good at it in school and getting picked last for the team or whatever. It's like the inverse of people hating on nerds, where it's obvious that they hate nerds because they were never good at math in school.
I wonder how old people with takes like this are.
If you grew up before 2010 and nerd culture you would realize that liking sports was not optional. You were mocked as gay. You couldn't keep up in small talk with your boss and would get passed over for promotion. It was mandatory to watch sports or you would be stigmatized. There was eventually pushback to that hegemony via the "sportsball" meme and mocking sports for being silly. Everyone seems to have forgotten how oppressive and toxic American sports culture was (and continues to be, schools are still getting gutted to make way for more football shit. Stadiums are still built with slave labor. Now it just makes you a "loser" instead of a "f**" to hate sports but the toxic masculinity underlying it is still there as you can see even in this thread)
I think most people's resentment for sports, if you asked them, comes from their connection to gender norms, and how kids who aren't interested in sports are treated by society as freaks who need to be policed into liking the appropriate gender coded activities. I suppose that also extends to people who for whatever reason weren't fortunate to be good enough at sports that they were picked last.
Either way the issue isn't that they werent good at it or weren't interested - its the gendered stigmatization that comes with it.
Perhaps that's changed or isn't as extreme now as it was. But, most peoples issue that grew up when i did comes from the reaction from society at large for not liking the enforced gender coded thing and being told whatever we liked instead was stupid or wrong and that we needed/were expected to like sports instead.
Apparently, the author of this comic has retracted it, views it like an inventor or scientist who sees their creation as gone horribly wrong.
Sports fans have it so hard! 😞
I can't tell you how much growing up as a "guy" in America made me hate sports
https://youtu.be/pQtSdsR1-H8?si=Ut-6O_eyDci1N1jS - "Wealthy people profiting off the physical misery of mostly minorities - what could be more all-American than that?"
Y'all didn't learn from FFX that big sports events give the masses in a shitty world a reason to feel happy and cheer for a bit.
And also a racist soccer player will help kill god.
This comic is so cringe it feels like a strawman
But what if I enjoy being a hater?
Then people should let you enjoy that
I watch 0 sports and the terms sportsball makes me angry. To the point I've thought about a gamer equivalent to throw back. Closest I can think of is controllertoy
Just tell them to go play on their Nintendo. They get real mad when you misgender their consoles
Liberalism: willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas.
Letting people enjoy things is literally liberalism. After the revolution, everyone will be compelled to enjoy and dislike the things that I, he One True Socialist, enjoy and dislike.
I think the synthesis here is that yes sports are dumb. So is dungeons and dragons. Adults can like dumb things, just acknowledge they are not serious and are for playing around.
no this comic is a war crime because people fill in the sportsball speech bubble to make the character criticize their shitty unexamined reactionary treats. For (an extreme) example:
"oh hey, you enjoying blackface cartoons from the 1930s again? That's pretty messed u-"
"shhhh let people enjoy things"
we dont have a system that destroys the bodies of millions of child minorities trying to save themselves from poverty via dnd. no one is getting injuries in their brain that leads to them taking their own lives. theres no history of making slaves play dnd for white peoples entertainment. no local town politics are based around dnd. wizards of the coast doesn't have the American government by the balls. no dnd college player is getting cheated out of millions of dollars their labor earned, while also working minimum wage job to keep the lights on. we smash black children's brains together till its a fine goo that is not playing around.
I also struggle to think of any DnD campaigns that caused mass rioting, or a statistically significant annual spike in domestic violence.
In theory, yes. In practice, I don't think anyone has ever had their school program defunded so that the school can buy new Dungeons and Dragons books.
I think the Sealion comic is similarly harmful and annoying, but less prolific.
"Sealioning" is almost as bad as "whataboutism." I've seen the comic and I still have no idea what it's supposed to mean - is it when you call out racism instead of letting it go unchallenged? And this is presented as a bad thing, for some reason??
You can't just make up words and use them to denounce things that are legit.
Let people enjoy war crimes
Wait no
