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Luigi Mangione

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 131 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Basically to me it's like this: If there's no evidence to convict Luigi then that means he's innocent, therefore, free him. If there's evidence to convict him then he's a hero, therefore, free him.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the people who belong in jail are the healthcare CEOs

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And the President, plus most of his posse.

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

I don't think the person that was arrested is the person who shot the healthcare guy. I think the cops grabbed a convinent person and planted evidence.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 145 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It will be very strange if jury nullification doesn’t happen.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 107 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I bet they do everything in their power to keep this from actually going to trial.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (6 children)

How long can they hold him without a trial?

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 118 points 6 days ago

Missed out on all the concentration camps recently, have you?

[–] stupe@lemmy.zip 58 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Depends on how he's classified. The US has held some terrorists indefinitely without charges or trial.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] stupe@lemmy.zip 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Putting quotes around the word doesn't change anything. He can still be designated a terrorist and held indefinitely without charge or trial.

I don't think he's a terrorist. But my opinion doesn't matter.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

My point is that it's just a magical justification for torture.

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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They're just people. They always have been people who have been hurt and destroyed by the systems that pretend they didn't cause it. And America sure as shit isn't the authority on who's a terrorist

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 6 days ago

Haven't checked in a while but aren't they now hashing out which evidence is admissible?

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[–] procrastitron@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I think it’s more likely that the jury will vote to acquit just based on lack of evidence combined with police misconduct (and incompetence).

The evidence they’ve publicly talked about is both itself fishy and has chain of custody issues.

Normally they’d be able to get away with that because most defendants can’t afford good legal representation and most cases don’t get much scrutiny.

In this case, however, I think those issues completely sink the prosecution’s case and he’ll be acquitted just because the jury won’t believe he’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

If at least half of what his lawyer claimed is true and able to be proven in court, he has a decent chance.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Luigi is innocent. Just from looking at the pics, the brows are different. Luigi didn't do it. Jury nullification is not needed. A simple acquittal is all that is needed.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 26 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The jury will be told that they have to find according to the letter of the law, and they'll almost certainly be screened by the prosecution during jury selection to avoid people who know nullification is a thing.

It's certainly possible that it could occur regardless, but they'll do everything they can to avoid it.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 days ago

Prosecutor: Potential Juror #5. Are you aware of the concept of Jury Nullification?

Juror: I am now.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 7 points 5 days ago

How do you screen for jury nullification without informing everyone as to what jury nullification is?

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (6 children)

12 jurors all being aware of it and wanting to do it is extremely unlikely, unfortunately.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only one juror needs to be aware of it before the deliberation, the hard part is getting everyone to agree to it. Repeated trials with repeatedly hung juries would almost be better though

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Having him be released under jury nullification would send a powerful message to the elites.

Honestly, an activist film maker should make a movie about how people arrested for helping fugitive slaves escape were often released under jury nullification. Get the idea out there.

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[–] Bubs12@lemmy.cafe 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My guess is Bill Burr, based on nothing scientific.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Burr seems like the type of guy that wouldn't hesitate to say it was him, in a good way.

"Yeah I donated it. I donated so he'd have a fucking chance. Fuck those guys. LADIES!" or something like that.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Didn't Bill say that Billionaires should be hunted down like rabid dogs or something?

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago

Like the most dangerous game? I love it.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago

I read that in his voice and it worked perfectly. You nailed it.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

self defense against the 1% killing us isn't terrorism. free him

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think his best defence now would just be for everyone to start following in his footsteps. They are going to execute him no matter what

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[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What a load of shit that they file the case as "people of NY against luigi." It's not the fucking people that have a problem with him, it's the parasites desperately running from the guillotine of consequences.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

man, team trump is fucking desperate to change all the news to be about anything but the fact that Republicans refuse to release the list of pedophiles Donald Trump is on.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I bet he's going to start WW3, it's the only thing distracting enough

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 48 points 6 days ago
[–] Dhar@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 days ago

"It's-a me, Mario!"

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

How much is $50k in legal money? Are we talking a game changer or enough to cover lunch?

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (3 children)

He doesn't really need the money for the legal bills. His family has a good bit of money. But the gesture is nice and the money could be used for other things if they don't use it.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Maybe a 3D printer. To pursue his hobbies.

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[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

More than lunch, not a game changer.

Imagine $325-$500 an hour (I know this is general and broad).

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 11 points 6 days ago

I'm guessing (completely without any knowledge) that it buys more lawyers able to work on the case.

I'm also curious what it really does.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Support heroes like Luigi.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 30 points 6 days ago

Some cool ass guy

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

If I win the lottery, id throw a couple hundred grand at him....

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