Community Rules
You must post before you leave
Be nice. Assume others have good intent (within reason).
Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.
Use content warnings and/or mark as NSFW when appropriate. Most posts with content warnings likely need to be marked NSFW.
Most 196 posts are memes, shitposts, cute images, or even just recent things that happened, etc. There is no real theme, but try to avoid posts that are very inflammatory, offensive, very low quality, or very "off topic".
Bigotry is not allowed, this includes (but is not limited to): Homophobia, Transphobia, Racism, Sexism, Abelism, Classism, or discrimination based on things like Ethnicity, Nationality, Language, or Religion.
Avoid shilling for corporations, posting advertisements, or promoting exploitation of workers.
Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.
Avoid AI generated content.
Avoid misinformation.
Avoid incomprehensible posts.
No threats or personal attacks.
No spam.
Moderator Guidelines
INFO!!! fairphone DOES SUPPORT CUSTOM ROMS!!!
i like the idea of a fairphone. i dun wana buy one tho - if it doesn hav the features i need/wan.
if fairphone had all dis stuff - it would hav a genuine moat, besides the sustainability stff-
alternative image link (blahaj zone)
The missing 3.5mm Headphone jack hurts so much :(
yesyis, also my biggest gripe ;(((
if i cud jus hook up my good lil headponies - like - i wud keep that phone for however long i cud keep it-
Fairphone has sources available for it and an unlockable bootloader. There are nightly builds of Lineage already available for the FP6
And the removable battery was really awesome. Being able to turn your phone off completely in just 10 seconds without any tools. Or pop in a spare one and have a fully charged phone on the go.
I don't fully understand this "I won't buy a fairphone, because it doesn't have a audio jack" way of thinking. Are there any phones that actually has a jack and still gets updates?
I agree it would be a nice feature, but the few I have spoken to, whom actually complain about this, has ended up buying another phone that IMO is worse and also has no jack.
I'm just confused, not trying to be negative or mean towards anyone.
I'm writing this comment on a Oneplus 6, which has a headphone jack. Since I'm using PostmarketOS on this sucker, I also get all up-to-date packages and kernel. 😎️
Motorola has been keeping models with headphone jacks still in place. I don't know about all of their models, though, could just be on certain ones.
Was one of the things that pushed me to picking my current phone.
Yes, Asus' flagship for sure as I've had them since most manufacturers removed it. I think there's a couple of others but I've been very happy with the two Asus phones I've used for about five years now.
Nokia XR20 has a big battery and headphone jack.
My Xperia has audio jack and SD card slot and still gets updates, and unlockable bootloader for when it doesn't anymore
I'm still using a galaxy S10 specifically because there aren't any phones on the market that have a headphone jack that I like.
It has 512gb storage, 6gb ram, removable sim and expandable storage. Just replaced the battery off ifixit. Only issue is no eSIM support for international travel but that's a small price to pay.
I used to buy LG phones for the headphone jack before they stopped making phones. Now I have a sony xperia 5 iv and they just announced they're going to stop selling phones in the US... Ugh
When I was shopping for a new phone I checked what models could run custom mods and had > 5 years of support. I came up with Fairphone and Pixel. Neither had jack, dual sim or SD card. Fairphone was about 2x more expensive. It was a simple choice. Now, if Fairphone would have a dual sim and a jack I would have probably paid extra.
Fairphone with graphene os and headphone jack would be awesome.
I want a phone completely untouched by Google. No Google hardware, no upstream Google dependencies at all. Hardware that I control and a more “traditional” flavor of Linux with a mobile-native DE.
It also needs to be upgradeable between generations like the framework laptops are. If it had that and a headphone jack I would buy one, but without those absolutely not. I'm not willing to pay anywhere near their prices for something I'm still going to have to replace in a few years, and after learning my lesson with my current OnePlus 9 I am absolutely never buying another phone without a headphone jack
I wonder how difficult it would be to make a phone that's easily upgradable like a desktop. And to install os as easily.
Upgradability should be easy, just keep the connectors and positions the same between generations and there you go.
And for easy OS replacement, just make the SD slot bootable like on the pinephone and then you can boot and install things from there.
Easier said than done. Phones are tiny, so you can't really fit everything in a modular grid system since things need to overlap, stack, etc... And you can't just make everything the same size every year because things just physically take up different amounts of room as they change and there isn't any room to spare for future upgradability. Batteries grow/shrink, cameras get turned into sideways periscopic lenses, fingerprint sensors grow and get placed under screens, etc. You can't just tack on an sd card reader or ir blaster if there's no space for it. Not to mention cpus change and you can't just run everything over pcie and ribbon cables.
Realistically, what would even be upgradable in a phone that wouldn't require resizing or repositioning internal components?
Battery? We can already do that but manufacturers refuse to in favor of sub-par water resistance and planed obscelesce. Plus, battery tech doesn't advance quickly enough that you'd get a meaningful capacity boost in the same footprint.
Cpu or ram? Upgrades really won't make a meaningful difference until your entire phone is old enough that it makes more sense to buy a new one.
Camera? Maybe slightly more useful than upgrading cpu/ram, but cameras are expensive and heavily depend on economies of scale to be as good as they are without costing a fortune.
Also, it's really easy to break your phone when you open it up, so there'd need to be additional barriers and hardened connectors to make it user friendly, which again takes up precious space.
Just make the phone a brick, you say? That might work...
OS replacement, however, is easy. Just unlock the bootloader, no sd slot needed. Any phone could do it.
Maybe supporting more US-based carriers would hook me.
However, I applaud their efforts in addressing modern slavery and child slavery in their supply chains and manufacturing.
It is rampant, and buying many forms of technology are supporting those supply chains.
This is going to get buried, but I’m so glad to see this discussion on our comm!! This is something I’ve tried to bring up among other communities I’m in and it never really gains traction. Almost 100 comments on this is awesome!! Luv y’all very much!
heyhi ~ ~ ~ <3
im also happy this kinda post ig getting traction... i guess i should stick with this much simpler type of post... normally i make them like - suuuuuper colorful which kinda makes them less approachblable.... meanwhile this one here looks almost... like advertising...
The design isn’t the reason I like it. I like it because of the issues it relates to and seeing people care about anti-corpo tech. If it was super colorful and chaotic I’d still love it! Keep posting however you want to post Smorty, we love having you 🫂
I'd trade their dumb accessories for a qi2 magnet. Stop trying to make a new ecosystem when a universal ecosystem exists around qi2
ooooooh!!! i thought that was some apple proprietary bs stuff - but apparently not - cool! <3
I always say this when someone mentions fairphones:
Fairphone 6 does not keep up with standard Android privacy/security patches and has no secure element to provide working disk encryption for typical users not using a strong password, among other flaws.
Taken from the GOS forum
The idea is great, the execution is lacking basic needs in todays world. Missing pin code throttling is kind of insane tbh.
Cellphones in the US don't have headphone jacks anymore? I thought that was just an Apple thing. My Redmi has almost everything in that drawing except its not customizable.
Almost all the smartphones around the world don't have a headphone jack, there are some exceptions to this rule but in general that's the "trend"
Off topic but I really like your style of drawing, it's cute. ^_^
I feel like most of these are at least misleading if not outright false (or maybe I'm misunderstanding them, so please correct me if I do).
I like the idea of the fairphobe, but its too big and too expensive. I'm poor and have small pockets. There are no contemporary phones that work for me.
Sometimes I think about the fairphone and similar projects that face some sort of conflict with their user base, and I believe this is the great trouble with creating stuff for non consumerist people. For example, I love the concept of the fairphone, but will I buy one? Well, maybe in a few years when my current phone stops working and has no means to be fixed anymore. Mine is a low end device from 2020 that I repaired a broken screen earlier this year. It's a bit slow, but I mostly run foss apps with very little requirements, so I don't really care. Since the introduction of GSIs, android version obsolescence isn't much of a problem for the tech-savvy anymore. I siply don't have any plans of replacing it.
If I had to buy another one, I'd probably look for a phone exactly like the described in the posted image, and I also have those conflicts with the latest fairphone model. In fact, I'd probably buy the previous models. I don't care for a version number of manufacturing date, or any other number, I just care for the actual use value to me. But for a company to stay afloat in our economy, they must release stuff often, or will be labeled as "lacking innovation", and if they don't follow the direction of other brands, the frequent buyers might leave them. And this is exactly the problem of such products, because their target audience aren't the frequent buyers! If they try to make the frequent buyers happy, they will make the target audience unhappy, and vice versa.
As a matter of fact, When my phone eventually needs to be replaced, there's a good chance that I won't even need to buy another, because some friend or relative might have an unused one lying around that they just stopped using because it's "old", and I will gladly give a second life to it. It's hard to compete with a sea of disposed stuff in good conditions.
Finally gets a decent proc to match it's midrange price
Still only 256GB option
Downgrades to USB 2.0
Maybe by FP 10 they'll finally get it right
I am pretty sure the graphene os team detailed quite a few bad things about fairphone. A quick search threw up this link, which might have been it: https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/10b5x4n/comment/j67pbny/
I currently have a pixel running graphene. It is great. My next phone, as secure as it gets (still fairly open in a lot of ways) will be a nokia. They are definitely the healthiest and most private option.
Okay lets get our girl Maria on the FairPhone design team :p
I completely disagree with you here, I don't see where you're coming from. Custom Roms are Posssible and you can buy it already degoogled so idk what you're talking about?! The switch is programmable? I Mike Accessoires I think they make it feel they give you cool choices, I want to fidget with them, it looks really nice to stim with. I'm nit sad about the headphone jack, I'm now used to bluetooth and it makes it cheaper to waterproff the phone.
Also it makes it stand out more as a phone which is not just eco-friendly but actually worth your money for features not many other/no other phone offers. Before it was hard to justify buying a worse phone, for more money. I also like how they apparently made a huge jump in power efficiency, before that was a huge dealbreaker for me.