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[Caution, leftist infighting/snide remarks below]

spoilerI'm confused, doesn't worsening material conditions count as political utility in his eyes?

Edit:I normally wouldn't have an issue, since it's actually pretty sane, but I literally thought to myself today "it would be funny if BE said Kirk's death was a bad thing because adventurism will make things worse." I was joking. I'm starting to hypothosize that economists [both accelerationist and reformists] are actually simps for the status quo

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[–] lydialmao22@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Man BE is on a streak of bad takes lately its kinda sad.

I dont understand this position. Does anyone really think the far right just, wasnt going to do anything before? Like they were waiting for something like this to happen? As if Trump wasnt already deploying the national guard in major cities? Like come on, the ruling class does not act out of petty revenge, and by this logic there is no actual action communists can take because anything can serve to provoke the far right.

And werent people saying this same thing about Trumps failed assassination last year? And nothing happened

Too many Americans are scared of things changing and want to just put the blame on whatever. They want to cling to the idea that the path we are on could somehow be avoided if X Y or Z didnt happen. If this event somehow changes what you think the future holds then you havent been paying attention.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It's funny because the dudes a hardcore accelerationist when he talks about the west burning but then when things accelerate and he isn't the one making all the comments he gets stuck up his own ass about it. At this point his ideology isn't communism, it's his own ego. He HAS to be contrarian to let us all know how dumb we are and how smart he is.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

At this point his ideology isn’t communism, it’s his own ego.

He more or less confirmed that explicitly.

[–] lydialmao22@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Its sad but true. Hes gotta be a contrarian. He went from making high effort content of genuine academic quality in terms of research and analysis to just being against what everyone else is. I still think he has some good things to say every now and then but he took the ragebait too far and thats 90% of his politics now

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[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I used to agree with almost everything the empanada man had to say, but he’s been slipping lately. “Look long enough into the YouTube drama factory and it looks also into you”, I guess

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I fully agree. I remember back when BE used to say he didn't even want to voice his own videos because it would turn him into too much of a publicly involved figure. Today's BE is unrecognisable by comparison where he wants every last dumb though to be a spectacle.

Living proof that Twitter is a cognitohazard

[–] materialanalysis1938@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What the utility in saying this? I mean yeah, no shit, things can get worse but they actively have been getting worse for a very long time now. Right wingers being genuinely scared is a good thing. You should be scared to hold hateful beliefs

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

no you see, we shouldn't be moving at all, that way we won't notice our chains and if we don't notice them it means they don't exist.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Acting like people can't comprehend that things can be worse is pretty funny, ngl.

Like imagine if I posted on lemmygrad and was like, "I know it's a bit hard for you people to understand, but the working class is a thing."

This isn't even a take or analysis lol, it's just an internet personality over-inflating their own sense of awareness compared to others. "I better get online and say this, nobody will think of it otherwise."

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 months ago

wdym, stepping on a feather, and stepping on a nail are both the same thing - since you both times step on something - thats why it causes the same pain! And thats communism

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 3 months ago

if only those dudes didn't lite fire to the reichstag, nazi germany wouldn't have existed 😔

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If the Reichstag hadn't burned, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened, historians agree

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago

If only all those minorities hadn't made the nazis so angry...

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

the nazis wouldn't have dared to cross these boundaries 😔

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 months ago

We don't even know who was the person who shot Kirk or put fire in the Reichstag. It could even be one of the right wingers, thinking the guy wasn't fascist enough.

And while Nazis and Magas may use anything to justify their goals, it's not like they would cease doing any kind of violence they are already doing even if no bad event happened to them.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m not gonna pretend that Chuck dying won’t accelerate our decline into martial law, but I’m not gonna pretend to be sad about it. He’s not Jesus and he’s not MLK.

I also get suspicious of people who make noise about fighting the power and being super radical while parroting mainstream fash talking points and pearl-clutching liberal hysteria. Enough people are telling us to be sad/angry over whiteboy podcaster #92 getting merced that we don’t need to bother saying it with them. Just let us have this win.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think we're accelerationists but my group chat is tired of the status quo. Whatever, dude, none of us expect to retire in peace.

[–] Oppopity@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you can get more out of your life than just shooting one conservative politician.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

No one is advocating shooting politicians. We just recognize that as the material conditions worsen, political violence will increase and that the response of fascists is going to be oppression and state violence especially against minorities and the left.

We're not cheering it on but we've been aware of the possibility for years. It is whatever.

[–] Prometheus_Unbound@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 months ago

BadEmpanada and many other streamers live on drama like a vampire feeds on blood

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 months ago

he's been getting more and more terminally online

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 months ago

I know he has some relevancy, but he's a transphobic and ableist fuck, I don't think we should be caring much about him or his takes.

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

This guy is such a joke. only Vaush has cratered quicker in my personal discovery to block journey and BadEmpenada only lost by, like, a week. Crazy.

[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

They were gonna do it anyway. I don't think it even accelerates things.

[–] SussexSocialist@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 months ago

Thought this would be a good time to share my Bad Empanada soyjak.

[–] blackadress@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 3 months ago

First of all, Charlie deserved it.

However gotta admit, my first thoughts were along these lines. It took me to see the reactions of the right wing pundits in my country to go full party mode just to spite those fuckers.

[–] Malkhodr@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is the kind of thing is expect from an American leftist content creator, as ot would make sense to police your community into not getting targeted for stupid reasons, or simply for the sake of making your propaganda accessible to as of yet non-aligned people.

Yet it's somewhat strange coming from BE. It's not entirely false, but coming from someone who constantly stabs at the 1st world, it's odd for him to show any concern. It feels more like he's being a contrarian for the sake of it, rather then actually trying to aid any rhetorical struggle.

I won't deny I'm concerned about how the US will crack down on leftists for this. However, I also hold the position that the ruling class already puts all to its disposal for the sake of destroying us, so why would they even need a justification on the first place? Kirk was so clearly a fascist that any "normal" citizen is more likely to empathize with leftists being suppressed over Kirk's own death.

As much as we rag on Americans, it's not exactly correct to think they support Charlie Kirk. Even a slight investigation into him, which can be done in passing during a conversation, reveals him to be a massive peace of shit who had thus coming.

[–] Trioxin@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 months ago

As much as we rag on Americans, it’s not exactly correct to think they support Charlie Kirk

Maybe not Kirk himself, but let's not underestimate just how far liberals are willing to go to protect "their own little habitat", as George Carlin called it - "They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced". Don't forget that while marginalised communities like LGBT people, undocumented immigrants, Muslims and people of colour are under siege from both parties and live in fear every day, straight white cisgender bourgeois liberals are afforded some relative peace and security by the very system that's creating all that suffering. So, when people start fighting back against the system and threaten that peace and security, don't be surprised by just how many liberals will be willing to ally with the fascists to crush them - not for Kirk's sake, but for their own.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

. Even a slight investigation into him,

liberals won't, and the media has spent the entire time whitewashing his evil so people that only are hearing about him because he got shot are going to have no idea he was an all around piece of shit antivaxxer, transphobe, racist, etc who helped facilitate the january 6th riot

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 months ago

As much as we rag on Americans, it’s not exactly correct to think they support Charlie Kirk.

Most americans (counting from the well-meaning clueless normie) are put off by whole kirk mourning charade. Hell most libs are angry at dems right now for their "spinelessness".

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah this feels like knee jerk contrarianism compared to his usual stance on fascists

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Shits gonna get worse anyway, why wait till it’s worse to start redacted-1 redacted-2 and illegal-to-say in minecraft

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 months ago

Who killed Charlie KKKirk? And why?

[–] uncanny@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 months ago

oh let us have some fun

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Is this him trying to state the obvious so people forget the "bad takes" (transphobia) he's been spouting recently?

Or is he aware that people are pissed off at him and he says something obvious that contradicts what he normally says to cause conflict and engagement?

The killing of the this horse gummed warmonger was most likely in house hit by god knows who. However i don't think it is in any way useful for the left or right

If he hadn’t post this, I wouldn’t have known that things would get worse. Thank god for BE.

Seriously tho, it’s getting hard to tell whether he’s just trolling nowadays or if he genuinely believes what he says on social media anymore. Who hasn't anticipated that this incident will be used to incite even more violent retaliation against the left. He says this as if he were the first with this take. Acceleration of the cruel inevitable or not, the right would have always done what they wanted but they’ll surely grasp at whatever reasons to support their cause. Hate it how his superfans get so worked up when you give him some criticisms and god is he so quick to call people idiots or assume others are American for questioning him instead of engaging in good faith discussion. I’m a huge fan of his work but he can be so exhausting sometimes.

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