This becomes suddenly far more understandable when you open the article and notice the band director isn't white.
and it'll also explain why nothing will come of it too.
The police will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.
There's a word for this situation. I can't remember it, but it's reich there, white on the tip of my tongue...
But he couldn't be racist, his wife's best eye is black.
That's tremendous. If you came up with that, good job.
Absolutely beauty of a joke right there. Thank you.
arrested not for breaking any law, but for 'not complying' where the office had no real reason to order anyone to do anything... and then charged with resisting.
the usa sucks.
The officer captured on his own camera that his reason for the arrest was "he was disrespectful"
Yep. Says it all.
Hey now, at least he didn't say uppity. Because you know that's what he wanted to say.
I don't think that was a lawful order, anyways. And police have absolutely no authority to command citizens for anything but lawful orders.
Except in the sense that they have weapons and are rarely punished for using them. There's what the law says and then there's the reality that if some cop gives you an order you have to choose between obeying and betting your life he's not going to escalate.
I would think this is a First Amendment violation as well. I hope this guy gets a payday.
Of course he broke the law - he hurt the officer's feelings. That's the worst law you can possibly break! /s
But seriously though. Cops got butthurt, and so they aggravated the situation, and used the fact that the poor man panicked when being manhandled as the reason to arrest him in the first place. What kind of circular reasoning bullshit is that??
the poor man panicked when being manhandled as the reason to arrest him in the first place
this is a primary tactic of all police in the united states. all of them.
i would assume its part of the pathetic training they receive which includes things like 'most cops will die on the job, the public is trying to kill you 100% of the time'
Yeah, cops are trained that they are at war with the public. We need to fix that shit
I see a few jerk offs from protect and serve are here valiantly down voting anti cop sentiment. Don't you have a dog to shoot ?
That's only when they're on duty. Off duty, they gravitate more towards punching their wives.
Can someone explain to me
- why the police is at that stadium to begin with?
- why that stadium needed to be cleared out?
The bodycam footage looks like everyone was having a good time. So, I'd consider it the duty of police officers to enable everyone to continue having a good time. Asking a band director to cut off a song when there's no emergency is completely ridiculous.
The cop probably wanted to get home so he could beat his wife.
Simple, the cops job is absolutely not to enable everyone to continue having a good time. Their job is to protect capital and the ruling class, usually with impunity. Unfortunately that sort of power corrupts, and this cop probably had somewhere to go and wanted to hurry things up (with impunity)
Police were at the stadium because they were likely required to be. Very often if you have a large gathering you are required to have Police present, often paying for it. It's largely a racket to get officers easy overtime.
allegedly pushed an arresting officer.
Liars.
If only the cops had some way to record the interaction to prove that he pushed them.
Bodycam footage is disturbing. https://youtube.com/watch?v=8nvbnvjutGA
Literally by the time they went to arrest him the band had finished their set and were ready to go. All they had to do was wait 2 minutes and they would've got what they wanted.
Sure, a majority of the initial conversation is unintelligible because of the band, but I seriously doubt the director said anything that provocative... if anything the officers are the ones trying to provoke a reaction out of him, and he's just asking them to stay out of his face.
I remember back when it was just a "couple" of rotten apples, but just like in the phrase, it seems they've ruined the whole damn batch. Remember kids, A.C.A.B.
I seriously doubt the director said anything that provocative
Even if he did, not illegal.
ACAB indeed..
We have given the police decades to reform themselves and they have refused. It doesn't matter at this point if any are good, the entire concept needs to be rebuilt
On the bright side, all these highschool kids are learning early that ACAB.
Holy crap I've never seen such an unnecessarily escalated situation in my life. Just look at all the chaos going on by the end of that video, and for what, because the band needed 2 extra minutes to finish their set?
This is outrageous. They better be putting this officer on paid leave for two weeks to think about what he's done.
Based on the video looks like they were the away school I bet these cops walked over when they started playing neck because "that song is disgusting and disrespectful" or some shit. Bet the cops were home fans and mad their team just lost so they "had to" shut that down.
The cop gave exactly his reason to arrest the band director: he didn't respect his [unintelligible]. That was disrespectful.
You can't go around being disrespectful to cops! They're people, too. People with tasers, handcuffs, guns, and have used straight-up corruption to get the rights to stomp all over your constitutional rights or just murder you.
C'mon you guys, we need to have more compassion for these poor cops. They were disrespected by a not-yet-tased high school band director: the most dangerous of all band directors.
Yeah. Nobody expects alabamians to be above this kind of high school drama behavior.
They really haven't grown up as a society.
Does anyone know who these pigs are?
Yes, they're police. You can tell by the uniforms and the blatant human and civil rights violations that they will receive no repercussions over.
Cops gotta cop.
Many have commented on why police were there. In events that I have hosted in the past, security is demanded for safety reasons, AND often, it is spelled out that people trained in handling emergency situations (police) are required. It is in the contract, and if they are not there, you do not get the keys to open it.
The band director's best response would have been to tell the police that he was responsible for the entire group of students and had the responsibility to get each and every single student safely home. If the police take control, they are taking that responsibility upon themselves. And remind them that that action would be without consent of the parents.
I dont think that this complex thought can be argued with someone who thinks one minute is too long.
Also in the US police has shown many times that they neither care, nor face repercussions for failing to take responsibility for the life of their fellow citizens including children.
This presumes the cops think logically
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