My boy nano getting a drive by. He always there for me when I need to quickly edit a conf file
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Delete nano already.
Let's make micro the standard!!
Nah, ed
ed is, in fact, in the POSIX standard.
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/
Shell & Utilities -> Utilities -> ed
In fact, it looks like ex and sed, both child editors of ed, are baked into the standard. No pico-family editors.
Nice, an analognowhere I missed!
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Why should micro be the standard over nano?
Because nano has unacceptable key combos, and no support for mouse. micro has sensible key combos, good syntax highlighting and supports mouse perfectly fine.
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Ed is the standard and only option.
EDITOR=shred too if youβre brave or having a rough day.
Remember to put
#!/bin/rm
at the top of every file, to teach people not to execute files they shouldn't.
Please use "/usr/bin/env [command]". Otherwise, it will not work on NixOS
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Ed is kinda-sorta great-granddaddy vim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)
ed (pronounced as distinct letters, /ΛiΛΛdiΛ/)[1] is a line editor for Unix and Unix-like operating systems. It was one of the first parts of the Unix operating system that was developed, in August 1969.
Dennis M. Ritchie produced what Doug McIlroy later described as the "definitive" ed,[5] and aspects of ed went on to influence ex, which in turn spawned vi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_(text_editor)
Vim ("Vi IMproved") has many additional features compared to vi, including (scriptable) syntax highlighting, mouse support, graphical versions, visual mode, many new editing commands and a large amount of extension in the area of ex commands.
I've never used qed, but it sounds like that might be considered even one step back:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)
Many features of ed came from the qed text editor developed at Thompson's alma mater University of California, Berkeley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QED_(text_editor)
Initial release: 1967
I guess TECO
which I also have not used
would kinda-sorta be the emacs analog:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_(text_editor)
TECO (/ΛtiΛkoΚ/[1]), short for Text Editor & Corrector, [2] [3][4] is both a character-oriented text editor and a programming language,[5][6] that was developed in 1962 for use on Digital Equipment Corporation computers, and has since become available on PCs and Unix. Dan Murphy developed TECO while a student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).
It was subsequently modified by many other people[7] and is a direct ancestor of Emacs, which was originally implemented in TECO macros.
EDIT: Actually...hmm. Now that I think of it, I might have briefly used TECO on a DEC VAX/VMS cluster. IIRC, I mostly used EVE, though.
EDIT2: Hmm. Apparently someone has ported TECO to Linux:
TECO, that grand old text editor your father used when he was young, is still available! It is powerful and compact precursor to EMACS and has a completely nongraphical user interface. This is based on Pete Siemsen's TECOC implementation, and comes with a copy of the original DECUS TECO documentation.
Do I need a paper tape punch and reader to use TECO?
No. Modern TECOs will also edit text files.
Is TECO fast?
Yes, it's probably the fastest editor available
While I'm maintaining the files as I had worked on them and downloads here, Blake McBride has taken the source code, added the video/scope mode, fixed bugs and improved the speed (not that it is slow!), documented the changes and has it available in GitHub. Go here for his work https://github.com/blakemcbride/TECOC
tries building it
Hah. It takes under a third of a second to compile on my system:
$ git clone https://github.com/blakemcbride/TECOC.git
$ cd TECOC/src
$ time make -j32 -f makefile.linux >/dev/null 2>&1
real 0m0.296s
user 0m2.341s
sys 0m0.874s
$
Hmm. Yeah, I don't remember how to use this at all, if I did use it. Looks like the command syntax is a little like ed's, but you whack Escape twice to execute commands. Each press of Escape displays a dollar sign.
Intro guide Β© 1972: https://ia902906.us.archive.org/25/items/bitsavers_decpdp10TOandbook04tecoIntro_1457616/04_tecoIntro_text.pdf
$ ./tecoc
*Ihello, world!$$
*EWtest.txt$$
*EX$$
$ cat test.txt; echo
hello, world!
$
Clearly does work, though.
Vim is bloatware atop Ed making it insanely memory hungry and nearly unusable.
(Send from an IBM PC with 256k memory running LFS)
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TECO is clearly the correct choice
This "neutrality" is like giving equal voice to doctors and tobacco companies. They need to take the initiative for public health and declare the correct, ergonomic editor as international standard.
Yes, but only if it's the editor I use /s
Of course. Why would you use the wrong editor?
It's like giving equal voice to NASA, and to Barry who thinks the sky is a carpet painted by a god.
"This whole International Space Station idea is patently ridiculous, what're they gonna do, hang it from the carpet?"
(with apologies to Dara O Briain)
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Awesome. And now...
- Step 2: Tabs or spaces.
a tab is four spaces... press tab all you want...
Vertical or horizontal tabs?
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Defaulting to nano without explicit user consent will be considered a class c user experience violation
One step forward, two steps back. I always hate how politicians can be so accommodating of the popular minority while still being so discriminatory against the less popular ones.
I use helix, BTW. It's like vim (but backwards) and it's written in rust.
main selling point being that it's purple
It's like neovim if you had amnesia and forgot all the time spent installing plugins and getting your configs just right.
Why does nano always get such hate. Surely as a quick simple text editor it does the job?
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Vim has long since won the war. I say that as an emacs user who is familiar with using vim because it's installed by default on the vast majority of computers I interact with nowadays
I was laughing out loud until I read the part on VS Code or Google Docs to "avoid ideological tensions".
Clearly Herve Beraud is a closed source advocate, total rage bait! /s
All offices within the EU administration will be supplied with the officially modified flavors of eumacs and neuvim.
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nano for lyfe! what's the fine for a "class c user experience violation"?
I don't use Arch btw.
How do they count Neovim?
Also, Emacs absolutely can emulate vim, making it unnecessary
Isnt that the woman who bent down to Trump to fuck over Europe?
Depends on how you look at it. The deal she made is never going to get ratified by the EU member states, but placated Trump enough to lower his stupid tariffs to acceptable levels. I think she 100% knew the deal she agreed with him was never going in effect and she just wanted to buy time, which so far has worked.
It makes a lot of sense to buy time for a variety of reasons. She took a hit to her image with this "deal" but she effectively accomplished all the goals she had going into those discussions. But from afar it looks like she was played.
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European Commision's laptops run on Windows 11 and then they need to pay for AWS to do any kind of meanigful work... And then some devs still pick Windows to run on AWS anyway!
ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR
You don't need ed, emacs can emulate it.
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