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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cut Meta some slack. They’re not Nvidia. They’re only a $1.5T company. They can’t make everything native.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 15 points 1 month ago

hahah, 1.5T ! peons !

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they sell laptops with 4 GB RAM and pre-installed Windows 11 here. No idea how they work. :)

[–] AnomanderRake@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They don't!

A friend told me they had a laptop that just suddenly stopped working and took forever to boot up.

Turns out it was a W10 laptop and it prompted them to install Windows 11 which basically made it non functional. Took 10+ minutes to boot and could barely open a single browser window. I installed Linux and suprise surprise the laptop worked perfecly fine.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t understand windows business model for these low end laptops.

They just make windows look bad (not that it’s good).

So many people have “windows slow” imprinted on their brains because they buy a $500 or less computer and expect it to be as good as a 1500 MacBook…

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that’s not even a new thing…

my mother had a windows 7 laptop for work, she upgraded it to windows 10 (microsoft did a similar nagging back then) and not only did it become atrociously slow, a bunch of hardware drivers also stopped working, including pretty important stuff like USB

unfortunately linux wouldn’t have been an option cause the software she needed was (and still is) windows only

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago

Windows upgrades sound like a nightmare anyway, no way I'd trust an upgraded installation. Fresh install or nothing.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

No surprise there!

Then they sell useless OOTB laptops. Those laptops desperately need Linux (or BSD).

[–] arrowMace@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tip: you can use the WhatsApp web site for text messaging (I don't think it works for audio/video?) and if you want to use it in a standalone window you can "install" it as a web app (in most browsers). It'll use way less RAM running in your existing browser than running a separate electron instance.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

(I don’t think it works for audio/video?)

it does

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when? Because last I used it Video and Audio calls required their native app (their excuse was their encryption couldn't run on the website)

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

I thought you meant attachments

[–] jmbreuer@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's called enshittification for sure.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's beyond that. It's surveillance software

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

That's part of enshittification I'd say. It's all about squeezing your users for as much money as you can, and surveillance is part of that.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The one fucking app of theirs that was done really well and they kill it.
Microsoft might as well deprecate their UI Toolkit now. The best 3rd party app to showcase it is dead and even their own apps are just web wrappers nowadays 🙄

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This could mean great news to Linux WhatsApp users.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i use the web version and it works just as well, while also benefiting from not being a native program that can steal more data than just a tab in your browser

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can it do video and audio calls?

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[–] Silar@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are so many better alternatives than both meta and windows. It’s enshitification personified.

[–] dachsunlove@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thinking on going back to linux sooo bad. lol

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I recently had a driver issue that prevented my Linux from booting. It was still less frustrating to deal with than Windows in general.

(The solution was literally one button press: In the menu to select what to boot, I pressed "down" in order to load the previous kernel version and work with that until a patch was available. Everything worked just fine.)

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago
[–] Mio@feddit.nu 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How much ram were the native app consuming?

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it is any more than 300mb it would be too much. But these days, big companies don’t care about RAM usage…

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Just download more RAM.

And in all seriousness, poorly written programs hoarding all the RAM amidst a huge RAM shortage is selfish and vile.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

190MB, according to the article. And when it was idling, it would be only tens of MB

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So, like Steam, half of all ("native") E-Mail clients and almost all Markdown readers? I mean, there's a fucking Bash script around to correctly display Markdown in the shell.

What a time to compute.

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