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Apparently they're scrambling in the wild house, meeting with lauren bobert in the situation room etc.

I think it just has become far more likely that trump himself had Epstein killed...

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 112 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only thing that will take him down is a blob of cholesterol being dislodged during a particularly violent fart. He is surrounded by boot lickers who will excuse him literally anything, including raping children if necessary.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Or shooting someone on fifth avenue

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No. Nothing matters. He said it himself.

I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The only true thing he accidentally said.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

That's not true.

He said smart people don't like him.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 month ago

I think he also called his supporters dumb

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago

The Boys was supposed to be an exaggeration, not an instruction manual

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He would even argue they were an illegal immigrant or some other excuse that could warrant shooting someone.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even if it was a white Christian family man they’d argue they were some illegal immigrant of some kind. The wrong kind of Christian…

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Much more likely Republicans will legalize child sex.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The issue is that anyone with a functioning prefrontal cortex has known he's a pedophile since at least 2016, when it was released that he would regularly walk into the changing rooms at the child beauty pageants he would sponsor.

This whole controversy has really just been about desperately hoping the MAGA crowd would accept a single fact in their life if maybe it didn't come from mainstream media. The issue that I see is that the right-wing propaganda machine has completely given up on getting the Epstein files released. They're not gonna cover it, they'll call it a fake news attack by the Democrats, and that's the last thought the MAGA crowd will have on it. There was a very brief moment where they did care earlier this year, but Trump and specifically Mike Johnson have successfully delayed long enough.

the other issue is even if somehow it did break through and galvanized the MAGA base against Trump... so what? Trump has already made it abundantly clear he doesn't give a fuck about his base, the law, rules and norms, or really anything beyond consolidating his power and acting like a king. Would that base actually go so far as to vote Democrat in the midterm elections a year from now? Would they vote Democrat in 2028, assuming we even have free and fair elections by then? would they even still remember? at the end of the day, I think they hate the mythical idea of "The Left" that they've been sold too much to ever actually fight alongside us, so hoping the J6 crowd would try to actually save democracy this time is absurd.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Some lessons I learned from Trump's first term that so many people apparently did not:

  • He's not gonna learn his lesson
  • Republicans are not going to swoop in and save us from what other Republicans are doing
  • His supporters are fine with what he's doing, and if they aren't they'll be fine with it after conservative media tells them to be fine with it
  • He will not face consequences for what he's doing

I would love to be proven wrong, but keeping these things in mind helps me to avoid unnecessary disappointment.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He won't "fall" until his supporters stop supporting him.

To be clear, his supporters voted for him in 2024 even though he was already a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and insurrectionist.

They will not care if they find out he fucked children.

[–] xTechDeath@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here is their response:

But Biden …(insert dumbest conspiracy you’ve ever heard)

[–] skvlp@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 month ago

But Biden fucked children in the basement of that pizza place that didn’t have a basement

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you're old enough to remember the panama papers and how less than a handful of wrong doers had to face their consequences, you can basically expcet a rerun. The entire ruling class is a criminal enterprise.

[–] derry@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The ~~person who released them~~ journalists Daphne Caruana Galizia in 2017 and Ján Kuciak in 2018 due to their investigations  ended up being assassinated

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

No. I think it will get far less coverage than it should, will get pushed out of the news cycle early, and Trump won't be held accountable. The only way anything happens is that someone who's pissed off makes another assassination attempt and lands the shot this time.

[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the slow drip of leaks is proving to be an effective strategy. Normally they flood the zone after a bombshell and the scandal gets buried. This time, whomever is conspiring against him is doing a much better job at keeping things tightly wrapped and leaking it slowly to keep the conversation relevant.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think whoever is behind it is trying to get Vance into the Oval Office.

[–] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I'm thinking this has to do with Vance's secret weekend meeting at Warren Buffet's house a few months back.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago
[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He's like teflon .... Nothing sticks.

But once there is a minor scratch, it will become completely worthless in no time at all. Now it's not IF but WHEN that scratch happens

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd say he's the opposite of teflon - he's so fundamentally dirty that it's impossible to make him worse than he already is. If who he is doesn't move the needle then nothing else will make the difference.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Theres been more than scratches. Seems like multiple times a day theres a new thing, just one of which would have been enough to sink someone's entire career 20 years ago.

Im not sure if its due to constant access to unlimited news, a sign of the times we live in, or simply him being untouchable.

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[–] TBi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

We can hope. But everyday I lose more and more faith in my fellow humans…

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Where did these emails come from again? I swear to god if it's klippenstein again

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Congressional Democrats subpoenaed Epstein's estate, then released them publicly

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

absolutely not. it can't be used in any type of court for anything in particular. nobody's going to go after him for anything in there.

it's just optics. and how much worse could the guy's optics possibly be? what difference does it make?

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

If he somehow does start getting held accountable for this, Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries will twist themselves into pretzels to somehow throw him a lifeline. And it wouldn't even make me assume Schumer or Jeffries are in the Epstein files, I think they're just so cowardly and worthless they'd help Trump without getting anything out of it.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Videos of him doing the deed with children would still make no difference at all.

Nobody will move a finger to touch his orange hair.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we've gotten to that point.

They'd claim it's AI generated and move on to 'more important thigns' like the money wasted on foodstamps

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Let's not get excited too early!

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

One can only hope.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 5 points 1 month ago

Someone will take a fall.

The operation will be largely unaffected.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

No, too many wealthy politicians will go down if the files are released.

[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm still skeptical that Epstein died at all! More likely they killed some guy who looked like him and let Mossad spirit the real Epstein away to Tel Aviv, where he's living under a new identity on the beach with all the children he can r*pe.

As for Trump, no. Come on. The only way ANY of the corruption ends is with a general strike and the overthrow of the state - plus, with any luck, capitalism itself.

#GeneralStrike

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