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[-] zerbey@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US has no issue with the metric system, and most engineering and scientific people switched decades ago. The military is mostly all metric too. The general public of the US is a harder nut to crack, asking a population of stubborn freedom lovers to change something they've known their whole life is damn near impossible.

I switch my stuff to metric all the time, and the usual response isn't "oh that's interesting", it's nearly always, "the fuck is wrong with you, why would you want that weird shit?!". If the government suddenly made all weather reports metric, the T-Shirt sellers would all become millionaires overnight from selling anti-metric slogans.

[-] Granite@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

So, what I’m hearing is to get some dropship tshirt designs, and get AI to publish a load of articles about how Dems are pushing metric…

Damn, why do I have morals?

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

“Don’t give them an inch”

These anti-metric slogans practically write themselves.

[-] lars@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Swap either:

  • Dems for Reps, or
  • metric for imperials
  • . . .
  • Profit
[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Americans: go pick up the closest consumer packaged good within reach. You will find it is labeled with metric.

It would be nice to get highway signs in both units, though with Google maps obeying whatever’s selected in your settings, that matters less than ever. Some woodworking stuff is just too far gone down the imperial hole and will never come back. But other than such odd niches, you can live a metric life in the US without much trouble.

[-] mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Americans use metric system for measuring bullets

[-] chetradley@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And 2 liter bottles of soft drinks.

[-] Ulv@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

Some bullets if they are nato standard or originated in europe. But other wise it can be based in inch or how many round balls you can make by dividing one pound of lead

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

No? Caliber is based on the inch

[-] Ulv@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Caliber can be based on a lot of things. Gauge and bore for exampel is based on the mass/volume (density?) of lead

[-] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm far from a weapon expert, never held a real firearm in my life, but 9mm bullets are a thing, no?

I'm fairly sure there will be a lot inch-based calibers as well; but one of the most known calibers has mm literally in the name.

(and I know there are e.g. the .50 Magnum appearing in many movies/games; which is based on inch; but I would say less iconic than a 9mm; at least in the kind of movies and games I grew up with)

[-] Ulv@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

Could be argued 44 magnum and 45 acp are more iconic than 9mm luger but the americans also uses the mm for 5.56 and 7.62 wich are nato standards. Funnily enough they dont extend this too the 50 bmg wich is called 12.7 where im from.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

I try to use metric as often as possible. I measure everything in millimeters in grams. I still haven't switched over to Celsius completely yet but I'd like to.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I lived hear my entire life and I still can't make sense of the half assed fluid measurements. I just use metric, because what the fuck is a fluid ounce?

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To answer your question, 1 fluid ounce is the volume of 1.0431755565 mass (weight) ounces of pure water.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

1.0431755565

I literally have no words for my seething hatred of this system.
Don't get me started on the damn mile. There's a reason we tell distance in time it takes to drive.

[-] nelly_man@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

5 fluid ounces to the gill. 4 gills to the pint. 2 pints to the quart. 4 quarts to the gallon. And 1 gallon is 10 pounds of water.

Except in the US. For us, it's 4 fluid ounces to the gill. 4 gills to the pint. 2 pints to the quart. 4 quarts to the gallon. And 1 gallon is 8 troy pounds of wine.

[-] Johandea@feddit.nu 5 points 1 year ago

That's great and all. But by measuring everything in millimetres and grams you miss out on the very thing that makes the metric system great; the easy conversions. You can measure things in millimetres and easily switch to centimeters, just by moving the decimal sign, when the measurement gets large enough. That way you can almost always keep the numbers manageable. No need to say 1500 millimetres. Just say 1,5 m.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, the metric system is quite great

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I still like the feel of feet/inches for length, but grams are way, way better for cooking and meal tracking.

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[-] sh00g@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Haven't watched the video, but as someone who works in industry in the US I think the consumer side of a metric switch is the lowest barrier to entry. A much bigger hurdle is the fact that almost all of our raw industrial inputs are built on the imperial system. Need to buy raw plate or bar stock to have something built? It's sized in imperial. And if you want to source metric you're either going to have to pay more for it or look outside the US. And after that raw stock is purchased and you send it to a machine shop that machine shop is almost certainly using exclusively imperial tooling and measurement equipment. You can do the fake metric thing that some companies do where you dual dimension all of your drawings, but those companies will usually still design to imperial so their parts can be fabricated in the US.

I'm absolutely not opposed to a switch to metric. I still perform most of my calculations in metric and then convert to imperial just for ease and because that's how I was taught in school. But it's certainly much more difficult than just deciding one day that we're all going to switch.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

This is the most valuable comment. I use metric everyday, but I can't magically change that my house was built in imperial.

heres my question. What do they use for a wood 2x4 in metric countries? And does the size actually match the name (unlike the US).

[-] kamikai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

90mm x 45mm is what’s available near me for framing timber. And yes it’s more accurate.

Millimetres in general are used heavily in construction, everything is stated in them, even into the thousands where people normally would have switched to metres.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Millimetres in general are used heavily in construction, everything is stated in them, even into the thousands where people normally would have switched to metres.

Similar thing in the US but with inches vs feet. In framing, no one would ever call for a "3 foot 2 and a half inch block," it's just "38 and a half"

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One yard two and a half inches.

[-] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This unreasonably upsets me. Haha

[-] esc27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As I see it, the problem is that for the vast majority of people in the U.S. there is no compelling reason to change. People rarely need to convert units and rarely (but more often thanks to social media) need to talk to anyone who uses metric. I see it as a cultural quirk not unlike a dialect.

Of course for science, industry, and other situations where conversion, accuracy, and international communication are involved it very much matters and U.S. needs to use metric as much as possible.

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