If Ukraine has demonstrated anything, it’s that Russia is not that strong.
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Seriously. If all of Western Europe ganged up on Russia, it would fold instantaneously. Bullies isolate their victims. Don’t let them do that and they show their true colors.
Europe should occupy Moscow for at least 50-100 years until it has reformed Russia and excised the mafia state. These things die hard though, so it requires a few generations of occupation.
Historically occupations tend to be troublesome affairs. The west spent 20 years in Afghanistan and got nowhere. I agree that the mafia state must be dealt with, but going by the west's ability to run an occupation that doesn't turn the inhabitants against them, is practically nil.
It might go better if the Russians see more bombs falling on their own soil for a few years before the occupation begins. Afterwards, we are looking for something like the way Western Germany was rehabilitated after WWII.
Did y'all not learn anything from the War on Terror? This shit does not work. Western Germany wasn't "rehabilitated" by the Allied occupation, but by decades of action post-occupation. The Allied occupation was perfectly content to coopt Nazis into its anti-Soviet bloc.
A weird assumption that an occupation would cut down corruption.
It also still has nukes
They're likely defunct as they require insane amounts of money for maintenance and upkeep and Russians have skimped money on all parts of the military, and where to skimp easier than on weapons that will never be used, unless it is to end the world?
Even so... Wanna risk that?
Does Russia? Even Putin knows that if he presses the big red button, it’s open season on him—not just a potential nuclear response from the outside but a nice, quiet defenestration from within. I think Russia will stick to conventional warfare as long as possible.
If Russia gets attacked, his days are over anyways
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Wars are a tool to thin out the fighting age population among the working class, so they can tighten their oppressive grip on those of us left behind who aren't strong enough to fight. And those who survive are a danger to society after returning home with nowhere near enough support and having been subject to brainwashing under extreme conditions.
Wars are an enemy of the working class. They are a tool of our oppressors.
When Trump finally has his war with someone (probably Venezuela), he will call for a draft, and there will be provisions that allow wealthy people to avoid it, probably by paying a hefty fee.
Level Moscow. It won't be missed.
Russia needs to be occupied for at least 100 years so that the country and population can be developed and taught how to operate properly and not like a mafia state.
I think that if you look around (just look at things like ChatControl, ICE in the US and the support for the Genocidal White Colonialist state of Israel in most of the West) we in the "developed" West are fast moving backwards and becoming more like Russia - more surveillance, more authoritarianist use of force, more corruption, more racism, more imperialism, a more oligarchic economic system, more concentration of power, more inequality.
Even in a perfect World were common Russians accepted it with open arms, I'm not so sure an occupation of Russia by Western nations would ultimatelly end in them "developing" towards Western Standards rather than in Western nations finishing regressing towards Russian Standards.
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How many Russians actually want war with Ukraine? Wouldn't bombing Moscow punish the wrong people? Bomb the kremlin
Unfortunately, most of them do. Obviously, still no reason to level the city, but you should not fall for that romantic thought of an oppressed populace that is secretely against the war.
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One of the classic blunders: Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
Luckily Ukraine and much of Russia is in Europe.
Only 25 % of Russia is in Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia
80% of the population of Russia is in Europe.
Europe is just a peninsula of Asia. It's all one continent
There are anywhere between 4 and 7 continents, depending on what you declare as a continent, including multiple ways to end up with 5 or 6 continents.
The graphic here may help clarify:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent
My point is not that you're wrong, but rather that it's not really something that everyone agrees on.
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They should be doing all that for 3 years already. Probably will take them another 5 to agree on anything.
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