"Oh, I get it. Just because I Chinese, you think I build wall. That i' bullshit! I'm not stereotype, okay?! Just because I'm Chinese doesn't mean I go around building wall! I'm just a normal person like all o'you! I eat ahrice and drive ahreally slow, just like the rest o'you! I'm not stereotype!"

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 months ago

Goddam Mongorian! Knock down my shitty wall!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Oops All Rooks!

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Can a chess expert tell us which side would be favored in this situation? Assuming checkmate for the black side would be checkmating the knight that starts on black’s king square.

[–] Rose_Thorne@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago

The only victory against the Mongolian horde is absolute destruction, lest they regroup and charge once more.

Black to win, unless white can form a Great Wall defense, and then it's a stalemate.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 17 points 2 months ago

I can't see the Mongolians losing, you can't take any of their pieces without losing your own.

To make it fairer, I'd say they should only be allowed two rows, but my money is still on them

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Someone could throw it into Stockfish and see what it starts with.

[–] Valthorn@feddit.nu 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Put into the board editor in lichess (with a king in e8) and eval was about -30.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is negative, good?

[–] yellowbadbeast@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Positive is in white's favor, negative is in black's favor. -30 is roughly equivalent to black having a 30 point material advantage over white.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

How few rooks would it take to be about even?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not an expert, but I can easily see a scenario where each knight moves only if it's backed by several knights (which is in turn back by several others).

They have ultimate mutually assured defense, plus chaos offence (teleport into the enemy).

White is cooked

Edit: Even one row fewer knights would still be an unbeatable defense.

Edit2: A single row only of knights would actually be an interesting game. I think it might be close.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am an expert in all knight chess. And black has the advantage.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago

What about for only a single row of knights?

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Depends with how much force you throw your pawns into the enemy formation

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Kamikaze pushes everything off the board

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Don't forget that many if not all of those riders are also ranged attackers.