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Taco-test #1 of the 'oat tortilla' experiment: (media.piefed.social)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social to c/cooking@lemmy.world
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Backstory:
https://piefed.social/c/cooking/p/1453727/making-simple-oat-wraps-from-scratch-recipe-and-notes

Homemade oat-tortillas formed in to tacos, then air-fried a bit to firm and crisp-up 'em up. Absolutely delicious, but also proved to be one of Hercules' fabled labors in order to get 'em right.

FILLINGS:

  • smoky kidney-bean stew, slow-simmered
  • fresh sriracha
  • sliced green cabbage as the base

TASTE:
Absolutely crispy, crunchy loverly, but this is just WAY too much work, mon'!

KEY CONCLUSIONS:

  • Absolutely, positively, DO NOT delude yourself that a general-mesh sifter is enough to sift your oat-flour. No-- you'll absolutely need a fine-flour sifter in order to even begin a proper trial of this approach.
  • More to say in future, probably upsetting the wide-world of bread & pasta lovers, but...
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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This possibly belongs in @foodcrimes

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely agree, right up until I tasted it...
Mah dude-- oat tacos absolutely ROCK.

Bigger problem for me is in trying to make them without getting absolutely exhausted...

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

First time I'm hearing about them, but what was your draw?

Corn works pretty great for Crispy Tacos

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

oat tacos

stop trying to make oat tacos a thing man. it's not gonna happen.

/s you do your thing oat king lol

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Haha, you know how in life, sometimes you just gotta "shoot your shot..?"

@just_another_person@lemmy.world

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Kidney bean stew

Cabbage

British tacos? Cause the only thing Taco here is Sriracha.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

even that is a bit of a stretch imo

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sriracha is not taco either, it’s Thai.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

At least it's a hot sauce.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, there's no rule stating that you can't fill a taco with whatever you want. I just used stuff I'd been making the same day for the test.

Making a Tex-Mex style taco is pretty much Taco 101, and I mastered that decades ago. The whole point here (stated in the OP) was to see how the new oat tacos performed.

@grass@sh.itjust.works

[–] Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you may be confusing tortilla and taco.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hah, and over here, I think you may need a wake-up-call upon the concept of 'food.'

[–] Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You keep saying oat taco, but the only thing that appears to possibly have oats in it is the tortilla. People don't say I had a flour taco, or a corn taco, because that is what the tortilla is made of, tacos get labeled due to their fillings, and cooking techniques.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol... I'm literally (not figuratively) saying 'oat taco,' because I've never seen or heard of an "oat taco" in my life, and likely neither have you. The ENTIRE POINT OF THE POST is to highlight that fundamental difference, if you're able to somehow wrap (PI) your mind around that concept.

The fillings are irrelevant in this case, and I fully laid out the cooking technique, from beginning to end.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You call oat tortilla in your title, and description, then, in the comments, call it taco. So, the title seems to suggest you understand the tortilla is not what determines the taco type, but in the comments that seems to not be the case. Which, to me, made it look like you might think of the two interchangeably. This is why I said what I said, you switched between them like it is the same thing.
It seems this has offended you.

Also, I have made tacos where the core ingredient of the filling is oats, using lightly ground oats as the primary texture, and binder, for a meat substitute.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, I suppose you have some points there (downvoting me as you will; whatever makes you happy), but the MAIN POINT still seems to be elusive for you, no?

Also, I have made tacos where the core ingredient of the filling is oats, using lightly ground oats as the primary texture, and binder, for a meat substitute.

Let's talk about "whiffing upon the entire point."

Here, again:
IN THIS THREAD, THE WHOLE POINT WASN'T ABOUT THE FILLING.

Hermano-- tell me what language I need to speak until you finally grasp the overall point, eh..?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never downvoted you, I have upvoted your post.

I understand that you are showcasing the tortilla. I explained why I said what I said, and it had nothing to do with the fact that you are showcasing the tortilla, but the way you interchangeably used terminology. The oat tortilla seems interesting. I simply responded to something you said with an example of how I have done something on the subject, the oat based filling. When you replied to my comment about confusing the two, had you just said something like "yeah, I am just swapping terms loosely, as I am showcasing the tortilla" I would have never responded to that. However, your reply made it seem like you took offense to it.

Anyway, interesting tortilla, have fun

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then I owe you an apology. And thank you.

Also-- I can CERTAINLY make it more 'Tex-Mex' next time, if that helps. I didn't mean to shut off that option. Sorry about that, but I thought innovation was the point.

Guess I was WRONG.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wasn't trying to bash on your filling, I put whatever in tortillas, just commented on the terminology. I was just mildly confused by it, I didn't mean to offend you, but I came off as being to pedantic.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

Thanks. I apologise for getting 'out of sorts' right there. Surely my bad. Be well, and sorry again.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

not mexican but isnt cabbage frequently used?.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

That one I can kinda forgive, it holds up better and the slight lemony acidic flavor compared to lettuce is better

[–] comador@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

sweet potato tortillas, try those next.

good, cheap and sustainable

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Got a recipe, friend?

[–] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You may want to look elsewhere if you need a gluten free specific twist as this one can use wheat flower or spelt wheat flour, but here's the base for what I do:

https://www.asweetpeachef.com/sweet-potato-tortillas/

Super easy with a Vitamix or similar good blender (step 3 after baking I skin and blend them), then I use a dough scraper to man handle it with the flour and salt directly on the table.

If you make it and feel it needs more fluffiness, add 1/2 cup or 100 grams of baking soda and a bit of salt to start.

It matches well with melted Queso Oaxaca and a sprig of cilantro dipped in limon btw... classic mexican quesadilla with a twist.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Hmm.
Well, I have no particular issues with gluten, maybe because I'm extremely wary of the stuff?

But I appreciate the education upon such. There cannot be a more 'lazy vegetarian' than I am.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It looks like you put poopie in it

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that was just for you.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Thanks bb <3

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you hadn't posted the second picture... I would've bet money what you were calling a "tortilla" as not a solid and structurally closer to refried beans.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fuck dude, I wish...
Okay, let me tell you a little story:

Back in the day, I used to make pizza from scratch. Even with many, many tries, it really was a SUPER challenge to get it right. So many steps to learning, you know? Later, one time there was this new-ish GF of mine who absolutely was jonesing fresh pizza, but... we were living in a sort of 'commune' at the time. But she wanted pizza, dangit!

So I... friggen' moved heaven & the holy netherworld to make something decent for her, and she tasted it and said: "this is GREAT!"

Foof, I'm a middle-aged man, now... I just don't have that prove-it energy, anymore, daggit...

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bruh.

You're copying the wrong tacos.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Bruh, the filling was just what I had at hand. The whole point was to see how the taco itself tasted and performed.

The concept proved sound, I just need to upgrade my tools.

[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Absolutely fascinating, thanks for sharing!

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This looks exactly like a Staffordshire Oatcake! I grew up eating these. They're usually eaten with cheese or bacon, or as part of a breakfast.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ooer, those look great. And looks like the wheat flour and yeast help keep them fluffy.

The problem with this first experiment is that the oat flour turned out too dense, making it impossible for them to rise up properly in the pan. Lesson learned...

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good luck with experiment number 2 😅

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Ah, you're not piling on TOO, love? Sure, I'll try to get myself a finer flour-sifter.

OH-KAY.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Come on, there are tastier cereals than oats. Namely rye.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

there are tastier cereals than oats.

I deeply, humongously pity the feel the fool that doesn't know the absolute magic of steel-cut oats.

Holy hell... really?

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You seem to be English-adjacent (hue hue), so I can safely assume you're indeed more familiar with horse feed than with rye. Rye results in cookery that's rather heavy but tasty. Personally I prefer mixed-grain bread, as rye alone is so dense that a couple slices can make me lay down for an hour.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, rabbits!
I got nothing against good ol' rye. (other than Madonna)

Btw, what does "hue hue" indicate, as an expression?

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

'Hue hue' is basically a chuckle, often a cheeky one.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago

Oh!

So it's kinda like "ja ja," as we say in nearby countries?

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You went with oats and didn't make it breakfast/desert related!?

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Captain, O Captain, I'd like a WORLD with you!

You are not going to BELIEVE what I'm about to tell you...

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Prisoners get fed better than that.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social -1 points 3 months ago

Your user name suits you well.