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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russian police and national guard want to die too? Ok.

[–] syvash@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

They already have. Rosgvardiya took very heavy losses in the advance on Kyiv in 2022.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do the Russian police vehicles also bring their own car bombs?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

They can be sent by Ukrainian drone delivery.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's newsworthy here though? Given that Russia's demand has been to get the Donbas, which belongs to Russia according to its fake referendum, what would be surprising is it not having its own police in the region.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

This is the newsworthy bit:

He [Kremlin adviser Yuri Ushakov] told Kommersant “it’s entirely possible that there won’t be any troops (in the Donbas), either Russian or Ukrainian” in a postwar scenario. But he said that “there will be the National Guard, our police, everything necessary to maintain order and organize life.”

This is the very first time that the Kremlin recedes a hairbredth from the maximalist demands they started the war with and reiterated every single time there was an attempt to negotiate. Thix is especially newsworthy when you put it in the context of the recent Ukrainian proposal to demilitarize Donbas and to put it under international control lead by the US. They basically agreed on the demilitarization part and did not outright say нет to the international control.

[–] syvash@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

The newsworthy bit would have been the fact that some media outlets spread this under the headline "russia will withdraw troops as well", missing the point that Rosgvardia is militarised "internal army", mechanised and equipped with artillery etc. Rosgvardia was among the troops marching on Kyiv in 2022. russia definitely wouldn't agree to ukrainian national guard staying in the area, though ...