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I'm very disappointed in poem_for_your_sprog for almost understanding this point, and then immediately making the same mistake she was calling out
'I have to sort my books!' she cried,
With self-indulgent glee;
With senseless, ~~narcissistic~~ pride:
'I'm just so OCD!'
'How random, guys!' I smiled and said,
Then left without a peep -
And washed my hands until they bled,
And cried myself to sleep.
The adjective "narcissistic" exists entirely separate from the psychiatric definition of "narcissistic personality disorder" and predates it by millennia. I get the other ones, tho.
But in this poem, OCD seems like it's a genuine topic, if they're washing their hands until they bleed. I guess maybe there's backstory here I'm not privy to
I think the "I" in the poem has genuine OCD and the "she" in the poem is using it inappropriately.
Right, at it's most basic level wouldn't it just be saying that someone or something is similar to Narcissus?
edit to support your point:
Why are you making fun of a teenager 4000 years after he died? Get a life.
If I had a life I wouldn't be posting about Greek mythology on Lemmy would I!
That would be true, if it wasn't for the fact that people try to use the symptoms of NPD as proof that someone is a narcissist. You'll see it in plenty of "therapy speech" communities.
You can call someone a narcissist all you want. But as soon as you pathologise it, it becomes clear that you aren't talking about someone who's just full of themselves. And unfortunately, the vast majority of the internet pathologised it, so it could only mean that.
This video explains the phenomenon very well: https://youtu.be/8ZFQG2e87ZU
Ok, but the context here is someone using the term "senseless, narcissistic pride," which clearly has nothing to do with what you're talking about
I didn't bother to read what was on the underlined section of it. Sorry 😅
Narc doesn't mean narcissistic, get off my lawn
Narc is and always will be a snitch
Isn't it short for narcotics?
Thought it originated as being slang for an undercover narcotics officer. So an undercover cop who busts you for drugs. Then by extension, an informant who rats you out to such an officer.
While we're at it, "gaslighting" is an abusive manipulation tactic to make someone doubt their own mind. It doesn't just mean "lying".
It doesn't just mean lying
Yes it does and you're crazy for suggesting otherwise. /s
It's really exhausting. OCD, ADHD, NPD, BPD, Bipolar disorder, all these commonly armchair-diagnosed disorders have lost so much meaning due to inappropriate use. I was recently accused of gaslighting because I didn't recall what someone was criticizing me for, so I said as much and asked for examples. Big gaslighter here, everyone.
Y'all need to learn that describing diagnoses by their symptoms isn't necessarily better or helpful.
Y'all need to learn that psychology is a science which has only recently been getting it's time in the limelight and you shouldn't be offended by its terms becoming more common knowledge.
Y'all need to learn that your pet peeves don't dictate how others must communicate.
Y'all need to learn that if misuse of language annoys you then educate rather than denigrate is always a better approach.
"Therapy speak" is such a growing problem that it was included in a newsletter I just got about "Trends for therapists to look out for in 2026." It was #2 on the 6 item list
I used to be able to trust that when a new client says "my partner gaslights me" they meant they are literally being abused, but now I have to ask whether they're being hyperbolic or using that term colloquially, which risks invalidating their experience.
This is similar to how people going gluten free caused a headache for people with celiac disease. Yes, there have been benefits, like growing awareness and more options on the shelf, but it also led to celiac folks not being taken/treated seriously, which could be deadly.
educate rather than denigrate is always a better approach
"Y'all need to relearn X" IS education. If you feel denigrated when you're told to learn something, then I don't see how it's possible to educate you without offending you.
Just because it has the word learn in it doesn't mean it's educating. It's purposefully written in an obtuse manner to complain and denigrate, not educate.
educate rather than denigrate is always a better approach
certainly, we can do both
We often wanted to use these terms, but they were loaded with generational guilt.
Language is a dialogue, a process. Not a snapshot.
"Sir, that last attack crippled our ~~impulse~~ intrusive thought drive!" - Star Trek if Starfleet had The Heart of Gold from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Reminded of a very good friend who means no harm but really needs to learn the words "stupid" and "awkward" instead of "autistic"
I'm kinda getting tired of one person deciding that their personal pet peeves must be laws of communications for all.
"Mr. Data, full intrusive thought power, bearing 116."
ya' won't take prescription meds but ya thinks that we will take prescriptive language ?
Are there really people who mix up impulses and intrusive thoughts?
I always love explaining to people that when I handle kitchen knives a small part of me is like "Slit your fucking neck and stab everyone you know! You can do it with that knife you got!" I've gotten over the horror of it but it took me years to comprehend that it's not normal.
Most of the self diagnosed OCDers are actually anal. They just don't want to describe themselves as anal.
You mean like Freud's theory that children who fail potty training and can't let go of their poo become maladjusted adults who try to control everything in their lives?
Is sprog still on reddit?
They are on lemmy.