this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2025
111 points (99.1% liked)

News

36480 readers
2873 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.


Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, blogs, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.


7. No duplicate posts.


If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.


All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 12 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The immorality in USA is insane. It's been a well known fact for more than half a century, that death penalty is against democratic values.
If you don't believe that, try to read for instance this piece:
https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2024/hss/why-the-death-penalty-is-incompatible-with-democracy.html

Yet USA has persisted with this evil, because USA is a society of violence and evil. Upholding slavery longer than any democracy, still oppressing minorities, denying healthcare to the poor, extreme punishments with for instance 3 times and you're out, resulting in insanely disproportionate punishment. Having the highest imprisoned population in the world, no matter how you measure it. Having unlivable minimum wage despite being among the richest countries in the world. Refusing to seriously amend weapons regulations despite regular mass/school shootings.

The list goes on and on, USA is a sociopathic society with no comparison among countries USA is normally compared to.

How did USA become this crazy? Is it because USA is based on Christian cults, so USA is built on delusions and outright insanity?
IDK why, but USA for sure is an outlier as a society, and it doesn't help that it's based on a seriously flawed democracy.

I am looking forward to the day where USA isn't an influence on the rest of the world like it used to be.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Upholding slavery longer than any democracy" is especially true considering it's still permitted in the United States, their 13th constitutional amendment merely put an extra easy-to-satisfy condition on it. You merely need to be convicted of a crime to be made a slave.

What a coincidence, the US has the largest prison population in the world, surpassing even China despite China being an authoritarian country with ~3.5 times the population. And that prison population is disproportionately dark-skinned. Who'd have guessed it.

I am looking forward to the day where USA isn't an influence on the rest of the world like it used to be.

Fortunately they seem to be speed-running that now.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

However China is worse on specifically this issue. It's believed they execute way more people but the real number is kept secret. And that may be a factor in the prison population.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why would you compare the US to China -A developing nation, instead of comparing the U.S. to it's contemporary allies? I imagine Afghanistan and Eritrea also have higher execution rates but I wouldn't compare them to the U.S. because they aren't our contemporary, developed allies.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uh first I made the comparison because the above person did.

Second, these are the to largest economies and two most politically powerful countries. It's natural to compare them and people do it all the time.

Third, does being a developing country excuse mass-murder? I don't think so. Your objection is completely irrelevant and off base in several ways.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Uh first I made the comparison because the above person did.

Second, these are the to largest economies and two most politically powerful countries. It’s natural to compare them and people do it all the time.

To your first point my post applies to both of you. To your second point, it's only natural to compare the too largest economic powers in terms of economics. Thirdly, a comparison to China is typically used as a distraction to downplay the importance of eliminating executions which also undermines your third point and my whole reason for posting.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

I'm opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances. I'm not trying to excuse the USA's horrendous system of dealing with crime which is among the worst in the world.

It just so happens that China's is also among the worst in the world so they naturally get discussed together. The proper response is to condemn both of them but nationalistic morons have a hard time with this.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, we may even thank Trump for that at some point, unless of course if the Chinese turn out to be worse, and now we don't have the needed cooperation between EU, USA and other western democracies to counter China. And that's a pretty big fucking IF!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Fwiw

  • Florida is 40%
  • 27 states allow the death penalty, about half
  • 11 states so far this year have executed someone

I’m going with this is not a us problem but a red state problem or even Florida man problem

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because Trump likes murdering people

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

He's just getting started.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Because the people don’t want to murder convicts, but the government does.