What's the revolutionary optimism kind of perspective on this? Cause I have a hard time integrating this kind of info from a perspective of not having organized political power; wanting to either feel doomer about it or ignore it in the hope it won't be as immediate problem as they say because it's so terrifying to grapple with. Or does the revolutionary optimism perspective only come from organizing itself (the knowing that you are making headway somewhere)?
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I don't have a term for this - maybe "hyperpessimistic-sadistic optimism" or something similar - but the only upside I see is that the fact that these doomsday events will happen, and the mass die-offs will follow, makes it easier to sell a Perpetual War of Systematic Extermination of the Bourgeois on the survivors.
We will, unfortunately, inherit a mostly dead Earth, but when we do, the workers who remain will finally understand that it is actually more moral to kill the owner class by the million than it is to let them live.
I think we have to accept that there will be bad things happening down the road, but we have to think about the big picture. Our optimism comes from the fact that our ideas will eventually make a better world. We might not personally get to enjoy seeing it, but it's what we're working towards. It doesn't mean that it's going to be easy going.
That makes sense to me, thanks for your thoughts on it.
Flowers are blossoming in my street because it is so warm. At Christmas. We're all fucked lol.
The most incredible part is that there's still so much denial that this is happening.
One thing i envy Russia for is they still have actual seasons. With real winters and real summers. We used to have snow at Christmas too once upon a time when i was a child... Not anymore.
Gonna sound like a boomer but when I went to high school I had multiple years in which I had to ride my bike for like 10km through snow and ice roads and I can't remember the last time I had to do that for work in recent years. A slight, wet layer of snow is the max right now, if it even happens.
I can't say i had that experience. I took the subway or the bus to school. But what i do vividly remember is how thick the snow was around New Year so we could always launch fireworks just by sticking them in the snow, even in the the city where everything is paved. Now the most you get is a patch of muddy dirt.
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Because the Thwaites Glacier sits on a reverse-slope bed, where the ocean floor dips inland, once retreat begins it is likely to progress toward irreversible collapse. The glacier's total mass is sufficient to raise sea levels by about 65 centimeters, and previous numerical models estimate that the baseline of the ice sheet and shelf will retreat at a rate of nearly 1 kilometer per year over the next 40 years.
I recall reading one study saying that as glaciers melt, water ends up pooling under them and acting as lubricant. So, it's possible that the whole thing could just end up sliding into the ocean all at once leading to a dramatic sea level rise overnight.
