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[–] jaschop@awful.systems 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The era of useful Silicon Valley Non-Profits seems to be fizzling out. I wonder how long Signal is going to hold out...

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 8 points 8 hours ago

(Those are my 2 reference points, if I'm ignorant of some cool org let me know.)

[–] self@awful.systems 22 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.

same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.

if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago

On the subject of Brave:

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ it really has a little bit to many controversies. (And the list is downplaying some of it, the wikipedia clone added wasn't just some random one, it is was the one created by the alt right, neo-nazi Vox Day. Addition of which by the CEO should be enough to not want to use the browser at all).

[–] WatchfulConsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 40 minutes ago

I don't care if a cat's white or black. I care if it catches mice.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And if you're here to report the mods for rudeness, lolz

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 9 hours ago

ahahaha delicious

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

Move. I'm trying waterfox atm

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 34 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

you_were_the_chosen_one.gif

I jumped ship to Librewolf a year and a half ago (after seeing Mozilla steal people's data and sell it to advertisers), and I'm pretty fucking thankful for that. For anyone looking to leave Mozilla to rot, I highly recommend it.

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

how are the defaults for librewolf? I’m considering switching but I’m hearing mixed things about the defaults occasionally breaking sites. waterfox seems pretty good too, but I don’t see it packaged as frequently as librewolf.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago

Defaults are pretty good - didn't need to do much to feel comfortable.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 6 hours ago

My only difficulty with LibreWolf on Ubuntu was getting it to be the default browser (it didn't show up in the list of options). Turns out xdg-settings set default-web-browser librewolf.desktop on the command line did the trick.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 8 points 7 hours ago

Not the person you replied to, but I also switched to Librewolf a couple of months ago, also greatly enjoy it. Here's a link to my nix config where Librewolf gets made to behave a little closer to default Firefox in terms of usability. Honestly not too bad!

The defaults are pretty strict, but most of the page-breaking stuff can be changed in the LibreWolf settings and each one has a description which usually contains a link to a wiki article detailing why you'd want to change it or think twice before changing it.

[–] Seminar2250@awful.systems 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I used Firefox for largely political reasons (summarized as "Google needs a competitor"), but it was becoming harder and harder to justify. Eventually, I just switched to a Chromium-based browser. I will say that, as an almost-good-enough solution until I wake up from this nightmare to a functioning Servo (🙏🙏🙏) , DNS level ad blocking (using Mullvad's DNS servers) + uBlock Origin Lite (filtering mode set to "complete") has been sufficient for me. It even blocks Spotify ads. I think it blocks YouTube ads as well, although I barely watch YouTube on my browser.

Ungoogled Chromium supports MV2 extensions and seems like a good choice if Firefox becomes unusable or you get fed up. I use Trivalent, a security hardened Chromium-based browser, but it may be tough to install if you aren't on Secureblue. Also it only supports MV3 extensions.

this shit is so fucking frustrating, just leave our browsers alone. we want security updates, not an unethically sourced bullshit-and-vulnerability-generator stapled onto the biggest attack surface on our fucking machine

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 13 hours ago

Presumably, if Firefox version N breaks ad-blocking, someone can make a hard fork of version N-1. Security patches, upgrades to OS support and things like new CSS/HTML features can be cherry-picked or reimplemented to it, though Firefox updates in general will not be admitted, as it’s a hard fork (in the way that LibreOffice or MariaDB is). At worst, Firefox will actively make it hard to do this, closing their source or changing their licence to one which prohibits it, requiring any updates to be reimplemented clean-room style, which will slow things down, though if the alternative is actively enshittified, it’s the least-bad option.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

maybe my favorite pivot to ai article yet, definitely top three at least. wonderful work

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 8 points 12 hours ago

small typo.

So guess what Mozilla did? When you update Firefox, tt re-enables the AI! And if you disable the AI again, it re-enables it again next update! Choose correctly, user!

"tt" should "it"

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'll just keep not using it.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

I'd choose to never use Internet again than use a chromium browser

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 5 hours ago

from your profile and post history you appear to be, and I can’t believe I’m typing these words, a pro-Brave anti-Mozilla gimmick account. go the fuck outside.

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip -4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's cumbersome to do so and it turns itself back on with every update.

[–] self@awful.systems 15 points 12 hours ago

I’ll fucking turn you off