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Stranger Things 5 has offended me by referencing the sorcerer class, introduced in the 3rd edition of D&D in the year 2000, while the characters would have been playing either 1st or 2nd edition in the 1980s. Having them split hairs that Will is not a wizard but more of a sorcerer feels lazy and is a further indicator that the 1980s aesthetic and the overall quality of the writing have fallen off.

Egregious.

I also don't have actual problems right now, so I guess this is what I'm doing. So, you know, bear that in mind.

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

They also use one of Moby's tracks in the latest episode. Which totally broke immersion.

(99% joking)

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn’t the show have major time gaps? Of the first season was 89 and the latest season was 10 years later? Thats basically 2000 with margin of error.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Despite how long the show takes to make and how old the actors playing the kids are now, no. Each season is set during the year after the previous season. Season 5 is supposed to be 1987.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So, there's technically a precedent for this, as Sorceror was the level title for a 9th level magic user back in the 1e extended ruleset.

Level Title

For example, a first-level magic-user is known as a Medium. At each subsequent level they become known as a Seer, Conjurer, Theurgist, Thaumaturgist, Magician, Enchanter, Warlock, Sorcerer, Necromancer, and, at 11th level, a Wizard. Thereafter they are simply known as a 12th-level Wizard, 13th level Wizard, and so on.

Sorceror, Wizard, and Magic User were also used interchangeably in the early D&D inspired stories and inspiring source material. As another example, Conan and the Sorcerer would be contemporary to the setting and would describe a spellcaster as such.

I think the name might have just sounded better as an episode title than Wizard (which implies old guy with beard) or Magic User (generic and clunky). But for the old heads who actually played the game across multiple editions, I get it rubbing the wrong way.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

The characters make a distinction between innate and learned ability. Your take is generous, but OP is right.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

When I started playing D&D, the media inaccuracies were not about wizard classes but Satan worship. We've come a long way baby.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Remember the Chick tract? Damn I'm old.

[–] JaymesRS@piefed.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Did you watch the movie they based on it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qc9JiIiOSQ

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

tracts.

that man tracted for sure.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Did he have more then one D&D one? I know he covered a variety of topics, I just think D&D only got the one. Maybe I'm wrong though, it has been a while.

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh buddy. You're one of today's (un)lucky 10,000.

Content warning: child abuse. This is Lisa, one of the most abhorrent, warped, and borderline psychotic examples of fundamentalist evangelism I've ever come across. All of Chick's work is to greater or lesser degrees reprehensible, but at least when the subject matter is a gross misrepresentation of something like DnD, there is comedy to be mined. Not so, here.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 13 points 3 hours ago
[–] gezero@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 hours ago

There goes verisimilitude...