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I’ve noticed that on Lemmy there aren’t really any videos/gifs as I scroll. I just see post titles, links, or images.

Is there a reason videos and gifs aren’t showing up on my feed?

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[–] wildchandelure@midwest.social 129 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Lemmy doesn't really support embedding videos yet. It's a highly requested feature so i think we can be assured it'll be here within a future update.

[–] MajesticFlame@lemmy.one 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Quite possibly not. Remember that the admins running lemmy instances have very limited revenue so paying for servers is an issue. Some instances even encourage posting links instead of images to save on cost.

Videos are in a league of their own when it comes to size and therefore the server power needed. Lemmy probably can't afford it. Its the prive we pay for no ads. You have to link videos.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 71 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Embedding videos doesn’t require local storage of videos. When you embed a YouTube video, you’re just linking a container which loads and displays the video from YouTube’s servers.

[–] trifictional@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

But that’s not really a feature of Lemmy itself, but the program reading it.

For example, if I’m using a Lemmy app on my iPhone and I see a post with a YouTube link, the app is the one that needs to implement this embedded view feature.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Yes, but I assume the OP is referring to lemmy-ui, which is the built-in frontend for desktop and mobile in the browser, which does not at this point support dynamic conversion of youtube links to embed cards AFAIK. App support of embeds will obviously be on a app-to-app basis.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy does serve up its own UI which reads itself and that UI doesn't support embedding videos.

[–] trifictional@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ah I see, I’ve only been using it from wefwef so far.

[–] sorenant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if Lemmy already does it or not but I wouldn't mind if it also compressed attached pictures to save on storage and bandwidth like some other forums does (eg compress picture to <1mb).

[–] hitagi@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t mind if it also compressed attached pictures to save on storage and bandwidth

It already does depending on the instance configuration. In my instance, all images are converted to WEBP and downscaled to 1000 pixels max either side.

[–] dasprii@lemmy.froztbyte.dev 1 points 2 years ago

ani.social

I love that lol.

Is there somewhere in the docs that explains how to configure your instance to compress images like that?

[–] kiddblur@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, my instance has a 100kb file size limit on images and recommends posting links as well. Not sure how that’s gonna play out long term. With sites like gfycat shutting down and nuking their content, I wonder if we’re exiting the era of free hosting and sharing as well.

[–] sneezelord@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Glad to hear it’s a requested feature. It kinda just hit me that it seems empty with no videos or gifs as you scroll. They definitely need to implement an embedded video player instead of links to videos/gifs.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 35 points 2 years ago (9 children)

GIFs work. At least in the comments they do. Videos can be (somewhat) embedded if you use an external host (i.e. catbox).

GIF sample:

[–] sorenant@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm a bitter old man who dislikes inline gifs in the comments, is there a way to block it like I did with RES on Reddit?

[–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

You can use a userscript manager like greasymonkey to inject a javascript snippet that will hide images in comments which have obvious urls to gifs and replace them with actual links or hide them

here an example snippet:

(() => {
  let timerID;
  function onChange() {
    Array.from(document.querySelectorAll('.comment-node img[src$=".gif"]')).forEach((e) => {
      const src = e.getAttribute('src');
      if (typeof src === 'string' && src.startsWith('http')) {
        e.setAttribute('src', '');
        const a = document.createElement('a');
        a.innerText = 'link to gif';
        a.href = src;
        e.parentNode.appendChild(a);
      }
    });
  }
  // if we have many mution events, wait until the site has settled
  function delayed_onChange() {
	  clearTimeout(timerID);
	  timerID = setTimeout(onChange, 500);
  }
  function init() {
	  // start observer
	  new MutationObserver(delayed_onChange).observe(document.body, {
	    attributes: false,
	    childList: true,
	    subtree: true,
	  });
	  delayed_onChange();
  }
  setTimeout(init, 500);
})();
[–] hitagi@ani.social 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not aware of an option like that but that sounds like a good feature.

[–] ThatGirlKylie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Using wefwef at the moment (Apollo inspired) you can use it on android desktop and iPhone as it is a webapp and they show up as a link for me that I can then click and doesn’t embed it or inline it.

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I’m a bitter old man who dislikes inline gifs in the comments

I've waffled on this issue over the last 25 years, but agree that the option to show/block should still exist.

First I was against it.

  • Mostly because it was change - cluttering my once pristine BBSs

Then I enjoyed it.

  • Because it added some liveliness to the threads I read, and because I was in a smaller collective of folks that knew how to do it without being annoying.

Then I was against it again.

  • Because the forums/boards because overstuffed with people shitposting ONLY animated gifs.
[–] klynno64@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not a gif for me, just a still image.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What client are you using? It plays as a GIF on the browser but it might be a still image in a mobile app.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah on Jerboa it looks like a still image. Still some work to go.

[–] else@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm using Thunder and it's a gif.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

It's a gif for me.

Are you using an app or something that maybe doesn't support it? Or on kbin or something maybe?

[–] klynno64@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's not a gif for me, just a still image.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno what it is with catbox but nothing from there ever loads for me.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago

Catbox has a FAQ and lists connectivity issues in certain countries like Australia, Ireland/UK, Iran, Afghanistan or users of Comcast and Quad9.

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[–] Gevian@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm waiting for

  • Instant Regret
  • What could go wrong (it's there but not much input)
  • Damn that's interesting
  • Public Freakout

Or some funny fail videos

[–] sneezelord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yes I want all those on Lemmy!

[–] myxi@feddit.nl 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have seen couple videos, one was a drone killing Russian soldiers, other ones were for porn. So it may just be lack of interest, or lack of convenience to share videos.

[–] ItsaB3AR@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ItsaB3AR@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I'm more of a dog person, but I suppose that is missing.

[–] rimlogger@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Without native video hosting, a lot of Reddit communities that are video centric (e.g. /r/CombatFootage) are not likely to migrate over here. I find myself missing video content here - it's a huge weakness of the Lemmy platform in general, and why I believe it will not fully replace Reddit as a thing.

[–] trifictional@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It will. Reddit only added video hosting in the past couple years. Before that, everyone just linked imgur and other hosting sites.

I bet the largest servers will eventually have their own hosting platform too, but for now it’s one of the growing pains.

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 5 points 2 years ago

Hosting videos requires a lot of storage, before reddit hosting images/videos most used services where imgur, streamable, gifycat...

On small instances hosting videos could be an issue with storage and bandwidth, hosting externally is always a best option

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ironically, reddit did just fine without hosting videos for... Well, like ten years.

[–] rimlogger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But if Lemmy is going to be a serious Reddit replacement, it's going to need to be able to host videos as well.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I suspect certain video oriented communities will go elsewhere. /r/combatfootage was my only Reddit video community, so it hasn't impacted me much.

I'm running !spacemusic@lemmy.ca now which occasionally links to YouTube videos when other sources aren't easy to find. We will see how that goes.

Probably features will get added over time. Maybe the federated video hosting stuff will take off some day. But from a bandwidth perspective, that might be hard for these volunteer run servers to handle.

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Who says Lemmy should/must/has to be a "serious Reddit replacement?"
Who decides on what features it needs to be a "serious Reddit replacement?"

It has already replaced Reddit for me with it's current feature set (I'm just waiting for my GDPR export to go through to bail out from there),

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You can go to/c/kidsbeingderps to see some gifs in action. It’s a new community so there’s not much, but hope it grows. Using Memmy app, I can see the gifs in action as I scroll, similar to Apollo.

[–] dogebread@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Why isn't that a link... Is that a Lemmy thing or an instance thing or an app thing? These tiny UX friction points are important for retention.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What I would do is upload videos to peertube instance (the peertube servers are better equipped for storing videos and most of them are free + offer more or less unlimited storage) and for pictures use plethora or pixelfied. Lemmy and mastodon are just one aspect of the whole fediverse, there's all sorts of instanced equipped to be all sorts of things https://fediverse.info/

[–] inverimus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've always hated reddit hosted videos, the performance was terrible. A link to youtube was always so much faster. I guess it made sense for subreddits that focused on video content, but I never cared about any of those.

[–] foxrumor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Doesn't need to be hosted on the server. Just need the client's to support smooth embedding from other video hosts like peertube.

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