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[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 80 points 2 months ago (1 children)

5 years later - pc gamers still playing it while console services are shut down

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

25 years later - PC gamers still playing it while it is unavailable for console and illegal to play on other devices.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

modern yakuza games, for example, will all be digital paperweights on pc as soon as the denuvo online activation servers go down. ps5 copies will still work as long as there is a functioning console and a functional disk.

[–] Linearity@piefed.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is what cracking is for >:)

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately the games that use these problematic copy protection methods have unreliable cracks (if they are cracked at all). Off the top of my head MGS5, Judgment, and FF15 all have cracks that are outdated and break with each major Windows update, which is not a good situation with respect to the PC platform's reputation for game longevity.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Windows in general isn't a good situation with respect to PC gaming longevity.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The situation in linux is coincidentally better by these games not being native linux builds, which lets users choose older WINE compatibility environments without impacting the rest of the system, I suppose.

https://blog.hiler.eu/win32-the-only-stable-abi/

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'm also saying that within a couple decades, I don't think windows will exist. I say this as a user of Dos and Windows for almost 40 years

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Honestly, with the current state of affairs, discrete hardware might not exist at all. Whether it's console or PC.

We can make all the assumptions we like about the current trend, but just because we don't like something doesn't mean that an alternative we'd prefer would replace it once it fails.

I don't disagree that Windows as we know it will cease to exist in the near future... but that doesn't mean things that are much worse aren't going to replace it instead of a linux utopia.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I can't blame anyone for thinking that. I guess I am saying that the situation would certainly be worse if these games were natively built for any other operating system.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what you are on about after finishing Gabriel Knight 3 a few weeks ago and playing No One Lives Forever at the moment.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm saying windows is dying, and will not be useful in long term preservation, on the scale of decades.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I hate how the most reliable denuvo cracker crashed out and turned out to be actually insane (probably a requirement to crack it tbh) and an awful person

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol wut? All of the Yakuza games are cracked at this point and have plenty of "distribution sources" out there, and the PS5 requires an internet connection to even use the disc drive. Don't forget about disc rot and day 1 patches either!

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of the games after the 2020 rebranding have been cracked, with the notable caveat being Yakuza LAD, which was not cracked but is available DRM-free on GOG

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Yakuza LAD

I'm choosing to read that as "Yakuza Lad" rather than the abbreviation it actually is.

To paraphrase Eddie Izzard, "Triad Man and Yakuza Lad" could be a whole series! ...with a lot of complaints

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Console gamers seeing PC gamers with tbeir 90% sales and freedom of software and no subscription to play online and ease of hardware upgrade and ability to customize input and etc.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't care about mods or FPS in the hundreds. I care that the games are discounted to a reasonable price, include all the content, and fully patched/ optimized.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

GOG/Steam sales is what you are looking for, or getting some good "personal backups" of games to run in an emulator. You can upscale and enhance them better than they ever were on original hardware.

Also, we don't have to pay for online, and never will :)

[–] colderr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Also, we don’t have to pay for online, and never will :)

Don’t give them ideas

[–] Overspark@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago

The vast majority of games I play were never released on console, so there's that too.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Console players swing overwhelmingly toward the younger side. I don’t think kids without any semblance of understanding of what they’re missing out on feel like they’re missing out.

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Honestly I think this is just a good summary of console players. I'm not young, but I play console, and don't think about PC... ever. I'm happy PC players found their niche, I'm happy with mine, let's talk about the games we love!

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

Most games release on PC first with PC first updates.

[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How's the cost of RAM these days, guys?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Consoles don't use memory, right?

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Console part prices have been negotiated years in advance.

[–] luluberlue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Splendid! but we're facing a several years long DRAM shortage, just so you know.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yep and depending on contracts, some things will be affected more than others.

DIY PC builders are the first ones to suffer