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Gotta love how some people are obsessed with the idea of a group of things it's perfectly okay to kill no matter what
It certainly doesn't speak to the reactionary nature of the belief in intrinsic evil
Nope, not at all
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Because some “orcs” ended up being cool as shit, that’s why.
The Saiyans are literally karate orcs. Goku had to hit his head to chill out and even then treats fighting half the time as a fun, whimsical sport.
Want to write a group of evil cannon fodder? The undead are right there. I’ll keep my Saiyans and I’ll keep my Elder Scroll orcs (one of the most fun races to play as btw).
Pathfinder did a good job with the Orcs being natives to the underground who were displaced by the Dwarves migrating to the surface
Most of them have given up on their animus towards the dwarves and instead turned it towards the arch-lich Tar-Baphon and his army of the undead
And that's not even touching on the Orcs in other regions. The Matanji Orcs of Garund are well-respected by the locals for being some of the most badass demon hunters around, many of whom have trained to kill demons with their bare hands
There were half-orcs in the books, which were conceived in exactly the way you think of. D&D banned them for a reason.
D&D didn't ban half, they just made the mixed heritage mechanics less racist.
so idk shit about lotr, what was up with the orcs coming out fully grown in wet sacs in the movies?
That was Peter Jackson's idea, not Tolkien. Jackson took a lot of liberties.
Also the wet sacs are Uruk-hai made by Saruman and not necessary all orcs breed like that.
gotcha, thanks
I was scared shitless when I heard the director of "The Frighteners" had been put in charge of the new LOTR movie.
Read the books already. Movie-only fans are the worst. They miss the best part of the story, the Scouring of the Shire, when the hobbits come back to find that a bitter Saruman (he lived) has come to The Shire and chopped down all the trees. Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin then set about putting things to rights without the help of Rangers, elves, wizards or anyone else.
i'm not even a movie fan, someone just linked a clip here recently that coincidentally had the wet orc sacs in it
It's a change that Peter Jackson made from the books, but one that makes sense as an adaptational choice. In the book, the Uruk-hai were created through, essentially, an industrial eugenics program to be frontline soldiers. Having them be spawned out of sacs in an underground factory captures how cold and inhuman an act their creation was in a way that is easier to express in a visual medium.
i can respect it
I hate what the chuds have done to Tolkien fandom