Ask Lemmygrad

I don't doubt some proshippers are groomers. There are a massive amount of proshippers, especially outside the west like in LATAM and Asian fandoms so it happens from time to time and other proshippers call it out.

What is true is that there a massive amount of evidence of vocal antishippers being guilty of sexual harassment and abuse among other things. https://ultimate-shipping-sources.carrd.co/#documentation I think it's a symptom of a patriarchal problem where weird groups are scapegoated to draw attention from normies who actually commit sexual abuse because it's normal in this kind of society.

I doubt there’s much crossover between Lemmygrad and fandom culture.
You show me an ML Disney adult and I’ll show you a fed.

It's strawmanning + puritanism. I wouldn't get invested in any conversations on the subject and enjoy what you like and block people that cause you trouble over it.

What the fuck is a ship

What in the world am I reading I do t understand a single thing, what is a shipper

As someone who is only vaguely aware about f these fandom factions I can’t help but feel that pro-ship is used to defend people writing the most heinous fanfic imaginable. Like the whole thing is artificially created because some weirdos are turning kids shows into Lolita and when called out they invented this pro-ship nonsense to equate heinous shit with horny nerds writing boring horny nonsense.

Maybe it’s just me, but growing up during the height of Harry Potter nobody declared sides in the Great War of shipping Harry and Hermione or whatever. It wasn’t until people rightfully started calling out pedo shit that all of a sudden you’ve got this great ideological battle between freedom and cancel culture or what the fuck ever.

And reacting to this the anti-ship crowd picked up all the puritans, contrarians, perpetual finger-waggers, and people mad that their ship isn’t popular.

I’m tired and rambly, but to summarize this all feels artificially created to defend creeps and pedos. This debate always surfaces when someone writes something fucked up but nary a peep otherwise.

It's all about shipping together characters in fiction, right? If that's the case why do we need to bother with other people's fantasies?

Is there any causal relation between e.g. shipping siblings in anime and real life incest? If not, and I don't think there is, it's just a distraction from real problems.

I don't really engage with shipping drama, as I find it pointless. I don't really get what Pro-Shipping is there's a difference between having a morbid interest in a narrative that can be produced from taboo dynamics, and someone who wants to fetishize taboo relationship dynamics. As ssomeone with a morbid sense of curiosity that usually leads to regret I can sorta relate to the former.

Like for example, would people who are interested in a game like The Coffin of Andy And Leyley becuase of its exploration of fucked up themes be considered Pro-Shippers? Or would it only apply to the portion of that fan base who obviously have a fetishistic fixation of the portrayal of incest in the game?

Maybe it's becuase I tend yo avoid delving into shipping discussions for series I like, but I'm confused about how broad the term is.

My personal view is that a shipper should be examined by the reasons for their behavior. Are they genuinely interested in exploting potential narratives/charecter analysis, or are they just trying to fulfill a personal fetish.

I'm not sure I have the capacity to speak more deeply on the topic or give a more thorough analysis, so apologies.

anti-weeb aktion now!