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[–] socsa@piefed.social 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What more evidence do you need that hasn't already been leaked? There's not going to be a notarized letter which says "I, Donald Trump, Fuck Children."

On the other hand, there is a fucking birthday letter to Epstein where Trump very clearly does a "wink wink we have the same secret wink wink." Like it literally calls his relationship to a known pedophile a "wonderful secret."

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

The worst part is that it's not his relationship that he's calling a "wonderful secret", that was literally public knowledge for decades. It's the child fucking he's all giddy and "secretive" about

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

The leading rich elite, Nazi or liberal, are all in there.

They all should burn. We, the people, should take back our country from the rich.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're probably also in there 

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Or some of their big campaign donors are.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

George Carlin told us a few decades ago why, its big club and you ain't in it. After listening to Sascha Riley's interview I believe Epstein was the middle man, Trump was the ring leader. He explains why Donnie needs a diaper

[–] ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

More than that

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump was nowhere near the ringleader position. It was Ehud Barak, who in turn was chosen by the Jesuit Superior General at the time as the ringleader of this blackmail operation.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because both sides are implicated and both sides are run by and work for the monsters.

Epstein is a class issue, not a "X faction of capital is less evil than Y faction of capital" issue.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago
  1. They didn't know and couldn't have leaked shit

  2. They only know because they, too, were involved with the pedo ring and couldn't expose him without also exposing themselves.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Isn’t that always the case? Take eg JFK - this president was an enormous womanizer, but only 10,20 years ago people (eg his old security staff) dared to speak up. However: that doesn’t mean nothing happened , as the old saying goes: when there’s smoke, there’s fire.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Both sides of the fake aisle are in on it. The congressional role call would end up being like the Epstein files. That's the simplified reason for it.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
  1. There were also democrat politicians implicated;

~~IIRC Hilary Clinton divorced Bill after it became known that he was there.~~ My bad, the divorce because of Epstein involvement happened between Melinda and Bill Gates. Bill Clinton was involved with Epstein, though.

  1. Important party donors were probably involved (of both parties).

  2. Epstein most likely had connections to the Israeli secret service and was definitely part of Israeli lobbying efforts. Both parties are heavily involved with Israel lobbying groups like AIPAC.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bullshit.

Hilary Clinton divorced Bill

*Hillary. And that never happened.

Your whole "both parties equally complicit" is such a load of horseshit, too. Russian asset much..?

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Do you mean Melinda gates?

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

That anecdote was Bill and Melinda gates, wasn’t it? I bet you’re right though, not an accidental mixup, but intentional

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah sorry, I did not, in fact, recall correctly. Bill Clinton was definitely involved with Epstein, though.

What's your answer to OP's question then, if the "both parties are involved" explanation is supposedly Russian propaganda? There's a distinct lack of comments who offer an alternative explanation.

[–] sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Israel is an absolute cancer. They have US' leaders by the balls, they literally have nuclear arms pointed at America and Europe and they have stolen nuclear materials, they commissioned Epstein to pull all his bullshit, they're real fuckers.

I'm 90% they've infiltrated Apple and thats the reason all the big spyware software like Cellebrite is Israeli-produced

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they literally have nuclear arms pointed at America

First time I heard of that, what's that about?

[–] sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So the point isn't that Israel can actually hit targets in the US, but that they have nuclear weapons in general?

[–] sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No that is the point, everyone knows 'rael has arms. U ok? Thats sort of an odd takeaway you offered there just now

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You claimed specifically that Israel has nuclear weapons pointed at America, but when I asked you about it you only linked me an article that said that they have nuclear weapons. Considering how far away they are, "pointed at America" isn't really plausible even if they wanted to, and why would they want to anyway?

Might as well claim that the US has nuclear weapons pointed at Israel, which is probably much closer to the truth.

[–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In no way am I validating or invalidating his point of "pointed at America" but in general here if anyone launches a nuke at anyone, EVERYONE in the flight path of assumes it's coming at them. It's how are extremely shitty, scary system "works".

Check out the movie "A House of Dynamite". It's supposed to be pretty closely based on a What If and how decisions are supposed to be made.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no reason to believe that Israel even has the ability to hit a target that is anywhere near the US, so the US cannot be in the flight path of whatever target they hit with missiles. And who would they even want to hit where the US is on a potential flight path? Canada and Mexico?

Either way, if that's our standard for "Israel bad because nuclear weapons", every other nuclear power is an asshole to Israel, too, including the US.

[–] sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Israel is a parasite on America

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, a reasonable and well-thought out reply to my comment.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bill Clinton is a major stain on this country. Sure, policy wise he might have some good stuff in there. If he kept his dick in his pants polarization might not have gone through the roof. Im not saying we wouldn't be polarized but lots of older people took sides and never moved.

I just want the GOP to get their just desserts for trump after the shitstorm they cause about bill because they had nothing else.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weird how the same people who apparently cared a lot about Clinton's adultery don't seem to care at all about the adultery and worse of Trump.

And AFAIK his politics were pretty bad, too.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Clinton policies led us to where we are right now

[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

How high are you right meow?