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Title is a reference to a recent Semi-Ramblomatic video by Yahtzee.

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

If you reduce any game to its core loop, all of them are pretty simplistic. That's just what happens if you simplify things ad absurdum.

  • Counter strike is just running around and shooting people
  • BoTW is just walking around, killing monsters and replacing broken weapons
  • Need for speed is just driving
  • Factorio is just automating everything

And all these things are nothing but tasks.

That said, while this is pretty lame critique, that doesn't mean that every game is good and it also doesn't mean that every game is good for every player.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We are just seeking positive feedback.

When you clean that trash pile in the game, it's as satisfying as cleaning the kitchen at home. but the trashpile in the game stays gone.

The kitchen is a shithole again 3 days after someone gets sick and it becomes another insurmountable task

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

What kinda asshole disses Stardew Valley? That game's awesome.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I tried out Infinity Nikki, finding it visually appealling, mostly out of curiosity what they'd pick for their core gameplay; what would "pique my mind's interest". They did kind of give a suite of open world tasks, but there was nothing there that gave the moment-to-moment excitement the same way combat does.

I honestly hate in some ways that our primary activity is just virtually killing things, but it comes out of basic evolution of what ends up being fun and engaging in game design.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

it comes out of basic evolution of what ends up being fun and engaging in game design

This is a generalisation, there are plenty of people who enjoy peaceful games more than action games - be it farming games, city builders, puzzle-adventures, and so on. Like even when I played Civ 5, I never went for a combat domination victory (outside of achievements), but preferred science, culture or diplomacy.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Factorio.

You just do tasks to do more tasks.

Fix a bottleneck here, fix one there. Bam 10 hours gone.

Ok lets progress. Let's make sth. new, ok what do I need for that thing.

This, this and that and this and that. Let me quickly setup a production line for that.

Bam 20 hours gone.

All I am doing is being a slave of the factory

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Lies. There is no such thing as fixing the bottleneck. It's only moving it somewhere else.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is true... You widen the bottleneck and now another neck has emerged. The real enemy is infinite expansion.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like there's a lesson about capitalism here 🙃

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Factorio is what happens when we shoot rich people to mars.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is only 1 task in Factorio, the factory mus grow.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Task 2 is killing trees

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

If Barbie's Horse Adventure had violence, I'd probably try it.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stardew Valley lets me feel like that I have a satisfying job, when real corporations would abuse and discard me at their convenience. It is quite the power fantasy, being a productive member of humanity without having to sacrifice myself.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Receive the full value of your labor? It's absolutely criminal.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Unless you started with enough capital to also receive the full value of other people's labor.

[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 5 points 16 hours ago

Tbf you sell stuff via the box which is presumably skimmed for some amount of profit (same in most games in the genre) so it's not quite a socialist utopia. Some of them are damn close though.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Why even make this about gender at all?

It's kind of insulting to men who like games like stardew valley and animal crossing. What, are we not man enough because we don't fill our free time with simulated blood and gore?

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If SDV was made as a “walking simulators” with decision making, would people still like it?

…I would.

Maybe I’m just getting old, but as another an example, I got into Knights of the Old Republic (the Star Wars MMO). But all that stiff grinding just wasn’t worth the rare view, music, or interesting character arc.

And as I’ve gotten older, I’ve found that more and more gameplay feels “pointless” like that. My brain can engross itself in Satisfactory setups, but after like a day I stop when I realize I’m grinding all alone. I get into Age of Wonders or Stellaris until around mid game, when AI civs get too dumb to be convincing.


So yeah. I think there’s a grain of truth there. I adore SDV, but some aspects do feel like “chores” just to see the passion and writing they gate.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Maybe I’m just getting old

I feel this every day that I can't get anyone I play with to enjoy more "investment" gaming journeys with me.

Two of my favorite games of all time are Project Zomboid and SCUM.

They are basically life simulators from different perspectives. Project Zomboid is all about micro-managing your daily survival needs and dealing with every little inconvenience or disaster to survive as long as possible, and the organic adventures that just naturally occur as you play, particularly if you play multiplayer and are social. A routine trip to a pharmacy can turn into a week-long epic if someone breaks a leg or you run into hostile players, etc.

For me, this is escapism. For people I want to play with, this is boring and "when does it get good?" and "Why is this so slow?" and basically ruin the experience for me, so I stopped playing with other people and am now a hermit who lives in the woods and avoids people. SCUM is basically rust on survival-steroids and in the vanilla game just finding a bit to eat in a trash can is exciting when you're just getting started, and the progression is slow and painful but rewarding when you finally get properly geared and have a base and a group.

For many of my (younger) peers, they rather play Battlefield or Marvel Rivals for hours and hours doing the same matches over and over. I don't get the difference.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

KotOR were the single player games Star Wars: The Old Republic is the MMO.

I liked it a lot, personally... for a while.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Missed opportunity to mention that Doom Guy loves playing Animal Crossing, and Isabelle loves playing Doom and they're best friends.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shotgun Isabelle is my favorite villager. Thanks to her I always know my island will be free of demons in my abscence.

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 47 points 1 day ago (20 children)

No, I have literally never heard men criticize Animal Crossing or Star Dew Valley for any reason, really. But I guess they do in your head while you shower.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You need to get out more.

There are a lot of people I know who think I am a wuss for playing games that don't involve shooting people and killing people and whacking people over the head with pipes.

I tell them I run a shop in a shopping centre and they go "that's not gaming"

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

I know some children who might think like that.

I don't know any men who think like that.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

tOuCh GrAsS in a dumb video game argument on a forum, gj

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I didn't mean literally get out more. I run a virtual shopping centre - does it sound like I spend a lot of time outdoors?

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

This is another fallacy men vs women BS attention seeking, ragebait post

It's not men vs women

It's people who only play COD and FIFA on consoles vs more involved and open-minded gamers

Sex has nothing to do with this but making it about sex is more headline-worthy...

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